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Norton
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Mar 19, 2016 - 04:13pm PT
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Didn't the most of the Democrats (in both Houses) vote for the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?
oh, I suppose you know how to look that question up your own self
but it looks like the bill was very widely supported by majorities of both parties
On November 4, the final bill resolving the differences was passed by the Senate 90–8,[18][note 4] and by the House 362–57 wiki
in addition the wikipedia article on the legislation gives both pros and cons, with
considerably disagreement as to whether is had measurable impact on the 07 Financial Crisis as to the involvement of investment vs commercial banks
But I am sure Edward knows all this anyway
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2016 - 09:04pm PT
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Reilly posted BwaHaHaHaHaHa! He so totally talked all those retards into buying houses with ARMS.
If you really think that's what caused the financial collapse I have a sweet deal on a bridge for you.
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2016 - 10:37am PT
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Heh.
GOProud: Sorry About Donald Trump, America
Washington (CNN)When Donald Trump arrived at the Washington Marriott Wardman Park Hotel to deliver his first major political speech as a potential Republican presidential candidate, he looked uncharacteristically nervous.
It was February 2011. Trump appeared quiet, reserved and, in an unlikely move for the media-hungry mogul, he even scuttled press interviews to prepare for his speech.
Trump came to the nation's capital at the behest of GOProud, a small upstart group of gay conservatives who, in a Hail Mary attempt to make a name for themselves among Republicans, had invited him to be a surprise speaker at the 2011 Conservative Political Action Conference, the nation's largest annual gathering of right-wing activists.
The speech Trump would deliver to a standing-room-only crowd would help launch his stardom among conservatives and set off a long chain of events that would lead to his status as the Republican Party presidential front-runner just four years later.
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dirtbag
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Mar 21, 2016 - 10:43am PT
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^^^^Oops!!!
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2016 - 05:43am PT
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The Arizona primaries are today. Trump should walk away with it easily and there isn't enough polling on the Democratic side to make a clear prediction for the Democrats but the high percentage of Latino voters should tilt things towards Clinton. The most recent poll only had 300 people in it and gave Clinton a 25 point lead over Sanders but 25% were also undecided.
Utah also has a primary and Cruz is forecast to win handily. The only real question is whether he can get over 50% of the vote. If he passes that threshold he will take 100% of the delegates. Analysts have pointed out that Kasich, who has no chance of winning the state (or anything at all) has put nearly $1 million of advertising into Utah which will possibly get him some delegates by keeping Cruz under 50% but will simultaneously net Trump delegates. If he's running as a Trump spoiler this seems like a pretty bad idea. If he's trying to be Trump's VP then this is a great idea.
The Democratic race in Utah is like Arizona in that the polling is crap but Sanders appears to have a lead. I look forward to my Facebook feed crowing about how important a Sanders win in Utah is while it being completely unimportant. Democratic delegates are split proportionally meaning Sanders' ability to catch up to Clinton is effectively 0 without her getting arrested (which is totally about to happen any day now, right guys? Right? Guys?)
Democrats also vote in Idaho today and polls there are hilariously absent and the one there is has a 10% error margin.
This article in Medium (originally in the Boston Globe) does a good job articulating something I've been thinking about a lot lately. As more and more jobs become automated we are faced with the reality that our current economic model gives all those profits to the owners of the robots and leaves an increasing number of people out of work. We become faced with the moral dilemma about how to handle the millions and millions of people who will no longer have real economic value. A guaranteed basic income will ensure that these people stay out of abject poverty while creating the opportunity for incredible amounts of human creativity. If you think about it we could launch a new Renaissance with Americans able to pursue ambitions based on their social benefit and personal reward instead of solely their economic value.
It looks like the Bundy family commitment to promoting bird watching has really paid off!
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2016 - 06:58am PT
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You can't always take that stuff on face value. There's no cost to opposing a nomination that is going to pass with or without your support and you score points with your constituents. We keep faulting politicians for mirroring our own desires. How dare they accurately reflect the moods of a petty public!
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crankster
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No. Tahoe
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Mar 22, 2016 - 07:10am PT
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What team do you like then? Is there another league?
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2016 - 07:27am PT
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Dingus posted Yes, I get that. I don't like the teams. Sorry.
Hate the game, son. My point is that we demand that our politicians say the right things so they say the right things. What we decide are the right things changes, so they change. That doesn't mean you have to like it, I'm just saying that we like to lay blame on politicians while taking very little responsibility.
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dirtbag
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Mar 22, 2016 - 08:20am PT
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Nixon domestic policy advisor john ehrlichman on the real reason for the war on drugs:
At the time, I was writing a book about the politics of drug prohibition. I started to ask Ehrlichman a series of earnest, wonky questions that he impatiently waved away. "You want to know what this was really all about?" he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. "The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11278760/war-on-drugs-racism-nixon
Worked like a charm, too.
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2016 - 08:54am PT
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Dingus posted Oooooo! Such insight!!!!! You know, all that Hope and Change business. I thought then, and I think now, as others point out the very same observation this election cycle...
That was pretty crappy analysis then, it's slightly better now. Obama at least ran on a pretty robust set of policy ideas even if his most simplistic slogans are what get repeated and remembered. I still have a bound copy of his "Blueprint for America" somewhere. "I dunno we just need change" seems to be a pretty common quote from average voters, especially those willing to swing between Sanders and Trump.
Dirt: Hot damn that's an impressive quote.
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Escopeta
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Idaho
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Mar 22, 2016 - 09:03am PT
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Yet, the war on guns is perfectly acceptable to some even though its more openly associated, and still tied to, Jim Crow legislation than the war on drugs ever was.
Funny how people rationalize the level of freedom they think is appropriate for others...
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thebravecowboy
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The Good Places
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Mar 22, 2016 - 09:07am PT
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let's start a war on the war on guns, eh? for the blacks.
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dirtbag
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Mar 22, 2016 - 09:09am PT
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White gun toting males are horribly oppressed, always have been.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2016 - 09:14am PT
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Escopeta posted Yet, the war on guns is perfectly acceptable to some even though its more openly associated, and still tied to, Jim Crow legislation than the war on drugs ever was.
Nazis built roads, ergo all people who build roads want to exterminate Jews.
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Escopeta
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Idaho
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Mar 22, 2016 - 09:16am PT
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let's start a war on the war on guns, eh? for the blacks.
Actually the Jews have already done that for you here in America. (Likely moreso than the NRA who many people think is the most influential US gun support group)
You can thank them for it later, when it finally occurs that they had the right idea after all.
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Escopeta
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Idaho
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Mar 22, 2016 - 09:25am PT
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Hopefully you are a member then. They do more for your ability to tote that Mini 14 than the mush mouthed NRA ever will.
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2016 - 05:27am PT
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Primary Update:
Sanders crushed it in Utah and Idaho with 80% and 78% of the vote respectively. Unfortunately, due to Arizona being a far larger state, Clinton's 58% win there virtually nullified the other wins and Sanders only netted a total of 6 delegates against his 319 pledged delegate deficit.
Trump carried Arizona with his usual plurality taking all 58 delegates. Cruz took Utah handily, easily surpassing the 50% threshold to take all 40 of Utah's delegates but still fell further behind Trump. Kasich managed to poll double digits in both states but took home 0 delegates and his campaign is officially in "stubborn old man mode" surviving on sheer spite and delusion.
The next primary for both parties is in Wisconsin on April 5th (so long from now!) and the polling there is currently weak.
Campaign Updates:
The 2 leading Republican presidential candidates have basically been in a slapfight on Twitter regarding Trump threatening to go release embarrassing information about Cruz's wife Heidi. Let that sink in for a bit.
It looks like what he is referring to was a bout of depression and anxiety she suffered from about 10 years ago. I'm sure plenty of people would have been clutching their pearls about this 40 years ago but come on. What a snoozer. The fact that she doesn't do this annually being married to Cruz is a testament to her resilience as a person.
In the wake of the Brussels attacks, Cruz is reiterating his call for additional policing in Muslim neighborhoods in America.
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