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happiegrrrl

Trad climber

New York, NY

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:23am PT

Philo is having a f-in rough time, people. He's facing the possibility of losing his leg.

Don't go, Phil.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:30am PT

Terri, serious ??? Then we need to be behind the man and do what we can .... I will start with prayer .... Lynne

WBraun

climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:30am PT

TIG -- Pretty harsh.

You really know how to hit guy hard while he's down.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:33am PT

Reap what you sow?

Mimi

climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:33am PT

philo, you can't leave if this is true. You need the support of friends and family to help get you through this. This is serious business.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:41am PT

reap what yo sow...thankfully, knott. Learned when Dan died that the only thing we have on this planet is our life (which is not guarenteed for tomorrow) and the people around us. So take care of the ones around you...whether you agree with each other or knott, we are all we have. Peace and loving the Joy in life when we care about each other. :D lynne

Edit: Philo, if you are indeed having health issues please feel free to email me anytime.....really, lynne

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:45am PT

Is this a suicide intervention?

Otherwise, it's all so dramatic...

GDavis

Trad climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 12:56am PT

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:09am PT

having spent the better part of 20+ years in the healthcare profession...let me tell you losing a body part is beyond hard.

If this really is what is happenin' we all need to rally the wagons. Peace, lynne

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:29am PT

r u sirius?

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:39am PT

I don't know about much. But think it would be a good idea to take a deep breath when the sheee hits the fan here on Tacoland.

We type words... but we are not always connecting and communicating with the words. So think mayhap we can take a deep breath one more time and not condemn and accuse but discuss and have discourse and listen and learn and maybe even forgive.

Makes life work in a better and much bigger dimension. Peace and more Peace, lynne

Say, that's what Easter is all about ...Happy E. :DD

graniteclimber

Trad climber

Nowhere

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:41am PT

"Come back when you have something to say and have learned to spell of at least know how to use a spell- checker."

If you're going to attack someone's spelling, your own spelling better be perfect. "of" should be "or." Also, there can be a space or a dash in spellchecker, but not both.

nita

climber

chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:45am PT

Philo,
Hope you come back at some point. Take care, i will miss you...good luck with your health problems..

Salud, xo...nita.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:50am PT

Knott backing up your stuff is your fault, and your fault alone.

When you are working, whether it be typing a document or editing video,
simply hitting ctrl-S (Windows) or Command-S (Mac) will save your work
to disk. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT DOING THIS AT LEAST EVERY FEW MINUTES.

You sir, have heaped a shít-ton of vitriol and petty name-calling upon others on this
forum, so you're knott gonna get much sympathy from me. Of course most if knott
all of people offering support are those who have met you personally; however the
vast majority of us only know you from your posts here.

Good luck and have a nice life!

TradIsGood

Chalkless climber

the Gunks end of the country

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:52am PT

Good luck.

Kind of silly to quit over W-Bombs though. He has a history of that.

Every once in a while he gets delusions of moderator or he has his own troll style.

Just bump to post number to modulus 20 equals one. Nobody looks at the stuff in the middle anyway.

Or as the old saying goes..
Don't let the door hit you in the rss on the way out.

:-)

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 01:54am PT

Philo, feeling the pain out there. Life hurts and sucks at times...been in it and am in it...but life is ...and we need to live it. God, family and friends can help us do it. There is a good life out there for you, no matter what the bad happens. Really ! I know. :)

Can't tell you how many times an unknown ST person has emailed me and lifted my day so I could have a smile and go on. Keep on Dude....we are with you.

Edit: I have never met Philo and don't even know his real name or part of the country he is from. He is human....he hurts...someday each one of us will. Who will be there ?

couchmaster

climber

Apr 11, 2009 - 02:18am PT

philo said:
April 10th 10:38 pm

I feel you are due an explanation.

This will be my last post on SuperTopo. I will explain but please don't bother asking me to reconsider. I have already deleted my photobucket account and asked Chris Mac to permanently delete all my posts. I will be forwarding him this post directly as well.

First I want to say that I have gained a great deal and enjoyed ST for the past 3+ years. I admire many of you very much and have been enriched by your contributions. I have had some tremendous feedback on my essays and cartoons for which I am eternally grateful. I have also received as many kicks in the face as anyone here because of my outspoken political views particularly regarding the Middle East. That is a very intensely personal issue for me and my family. I know of no other STer who lost 5 family members and 6 friends in the war on Gaza as my wife has. Yet even the rhetoric and direct attacks on me were not a problem. I consider that small price to pay for speaking what I believe is the truth . Certainly I am tough enough to with stand any of those slings and arrows. And I would never leave the TacoStand because my feelings were hurt. But this latest episode goes beyond the pale and I am gone.

I am leaving because of a particularly childish stunt perpetrated by Russ Walling.
In his disdain for and distaste of OT threads he posted jpegs so large as to cause several ST folks' MacBooks and IPhones to crash. Then he proceeded to warn every one off of OT threads by threatening more of the same.
Though I fortunately saw Neebees' warning before opening the offending file this threat directly effects me in many ways.
Over the last 5 years I have spent thousands of dollars on computer equipment repair and replacement. In the last 18 months alone I have had 3 laptops crash and take all of my stuff with them. I am talking about all my photos, art, toons, essays and all of my business, everything. I lost further thousands of additional dollars on lost time for data base rebuilding. As well as penalties for delinquency in corporate tax reporting. All of my computer failures were not from your average worms and viruses but from deliberate malicious external attacks. All were top of the line PC systems. Due to this I had recently switched to a Mac as they were considered safer from attack. And I added an external hard drive as well. Still the work involved is far greater than some would imagine. Then I read WARNINGS of a file on a particular OT thread crashing Macs and IPhones. Russ and several others think this was funny. Trust me I was not amused. I just cannot afford to participate in a forum where any given thread may lose my data or shut me down even for a day. As in climbing there should be an inherent trust between participants. This trust, for me at least, has been broken. Russ' lame "stunt' was perceived by me as a threat to my business as any shut down costs me more than I can recover. And a risk to my creative endeavors as I compose directly in a stream of thought process. It is Impractical to bog down my computer by backing up every minute. It was, for me, the equivalent of trundling a rock when there wer climbers below..
Russ' beef was with OT threads and there in lies the rub. They obviously generate a great deal of attention. I can't imagine the multitudes of hits is a bad thing for CMac and ST. As much as many of them are utter tripe a great many OT threads have real value at least to those who participated. Tarbuster got contacted by OT posters with potentially invaluable medical information. I asked for and got important surgical information. Even though she and I have fought like bad children at times LEB came through for me on that one. Often we here on the Taco have shared condolences for our loses and support for our fears. And all on OT threads. What is wrong with that? Do they get out of hand and drift wildly at times? Of course. Do they get petty and ugly at times? Absolutely. And what is wrong with that? Did any one else out there grow up in a family? Did you at times fight likes bad siblings? Did you come back together for support when tragedy struck or the sh#t hit the fan? Anything wrong with that?
Look at the heading of this page. It clearly states...
SuperTopo Climber’s Forum.
Not SuperTopo Climbing Forum.
It was the diversity of this site that I found so appealing and intriguing. The open opportunity to share, banter and argue with a widely diverse group of tremendously interesting folks from all over the world. It was amazing! Ostensibly what Russ is saying by his words and deeds is that since he doesn't like them everyone else should stay away from OT threads. Well who elected him BlogCzar? I can't risk opening up a thread I may be interested in and watching my screen go black. Can any of you? And if fear keeps us away from dialogue, even unpleasant dialogue, isn't that just a pernicious form of censorship?
So Fare Well all. Phil Broscovak

Phil, I'm sure Russ didn't think your life would be ruined and you would lose all your data. Never happened before when a large file gets posted. (I think Russ posted a picture of the Sun...very very large but not full sized) You called the FBI and homeland security, but they weren't interested and now you're pissed. The rest of us back up our stuff regularly. After losing 3 computers you have not learned this yet? I know you cannot respond or your self imposed vow would fall to sh#t, but think that over. Hard drives die. Back your stuff up.

Take care

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Apr 11, 2009 - 02:24am PT

In all this scintillating drama that has unfolded today, I forgot to ask:

Did any of you drama-queens bother trying alt + F4 (Windows) or Command + Option + esc (Mac)
when your RAM-deficient computers had their browsers "freeze"? How long did you wait before
you "threw in the towel?

Ever hear of virtual memory?