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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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How do you NOT like some attractive chick that sounds like your mom that you don't know anything about. How this is the 'fault' of the 'lefty idiots' is quite a stretch. I'm pretty sure Obama was the most popular until the right wing propoganda machine went to work.
Also....does this make Palin a celebrity now? I mean here you are quoting her popularity as some sort of evidence validating her. More delicious hypocracy from the Woody wood. You should really see that Jon Stewart clip from a couple nights ago that someone posted. You'd fit right in.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Woody,
As far as going after her family, she dragged her family onstage and made them an issue. She was no doubt picked in part because of her family and its "values."
In addition, as VP, she is going to be creating or at least attempting to create policy about family related issues. Part of her platform is pro-life, etc. She opened the door wide open. I'm surprised that you're surprised or that anyone else would be legitimately so now that it's turned around and bit her on the ass.
BTW, given the "leadership" we've had for the past eight years, you can see how some portion of the American public can be easily impressed.
The Governor has no clothes.
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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Woody-You are correct. The dems better figure it out and quickly. She's popular because she's relatively new to the political scene and seems on the surface that she could be a maverick for change. It's very problematic for the dems. For the same reasons, I feel the same about Obama. He's young and has relatively few years in politics and offers a "fresh breath" in National politics, then he goes and picks Biden...being a moderate, these are difficult choices for me.
Palin's a little too right for me. McCain doesn't concern me as conservative. He's made it clear he doesn't blindly answer to the far right base. It's gonna be a barburner to the finish! Should be fun to watch it all unfold or unravel!
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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I can certainly see that this would be true. She's brand new, she is somewhat of a celebrity. It will be interesting to see if this holds up over the next month or so once the newness wears off and people actually think more about her policies and the policies of the ticket in general.
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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She's like an optical illusion. Your mind tries to fill in the gaps with what it thinks should be in place of the missing information, thus creating the illusion that she is whatever you most want in a Veep/Prez.
Obama may have some gaps, but Palin is nothing but gaps; there is no there there.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mmmmm, Mojitos are tasty...and spparently quite effective!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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(Bad Canadian joke.)
Q: You know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?
A: Only half the pit bulls are bitches.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Wow. For once I agree with WandaFuca, or whatever his latest manifestation is.
But hey, Republicans aren't picky. They decry the dems for their celebrity and celebrity endorsements but fall all over themselves when they have one running for office (Reagan/Schwarzenegger), no matter how thin the qualifications. And look how much they've been waiving their one celebrity--Jon Voight--around. Pathetic.
To keep the Republicans happy, you generally have to prop up someone reasonably presentable, characterize their pro-business voting records as pro-American, and they'll convince themselves that it's all true. There was dimwit who wrote a letter to the editor that appeared in today's LA Times who preferred Palin, in part, over Hillary because Hillary bought the lies about WMDs in Iraq. That's rich. Don't blame the idiot you voted for who actively perpetrated the lie. Blame the person who relied on it, believing that the President of the United State would never fabricate to the extent he did.
How can you ever hope to reach such people?
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Flashlight
climber
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You know she is a threat by the non-stop onslaught of negativity and attacks from the left since her nomination.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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woody wrote:
"I'll try again since my point was missed by most. The salient question at this point for those in opposition to the Reps is why is Palin so popular with the majority of Americans at this point? I didn't say they would all vote for the Reps. I qualified by saying that many may not agree with all her positions; but, it appears, I must spell it out to you: the Dems had better understand her positive impact on the electorate. If they don't figure that out and respond intelligently to it, they will blunder badly when going after this lady. I try to help, but my compassion is so easily misunderstood."
actually, it appears (and has appeared from the beginning of this charade) that only the republicans like her. she was a bone to throw to the base, and as many times as some partisan hack calls her a game changer, that doesn't make it so.
watch as her approval ratings drop because the mcbush campaign refuses to let her speak with the press (and no, fauxnews doesn't count)
try to understand what this article says:
WASHINGTON - Just four in 10 say Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin has enough experience to be president, while nearly two-thirds say so about Joe Biden, her Democratic counterpart, a poll showed Friday.
Views of Palin largely reflect partisan loyalty and show she's having little initial impact on which presidential ticket people support, the ABC News survey showed.
Eight in 10 Republicans and more than four in 10 independents say they have more confidence in Republican presidential nominee John McCain's decision-making for his selection of Palin. Six in 10 Democrats say it reduces theirs.
More have a favorable than unfavorable view of Palin by 50 percent to 37 percent — a bit less than the 54 percent to 30 percent positive opinion they have of Biden. Palin is seen favorably by 85 percent of Republicans, 24 percent of Democrats and 53 percent of independents.
By just 6 percentage points, people say her choice makes them likelier to vote for than against the McCain ticket. Pivotal GOP voting blocs — conservatives, Republicans and white evangelicals — are all likelier to support than oppose McCain because of Palin by 32 points or more.
Biden makes people likelier to support Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama by 12 points. Most say neither vice presidential pick will make a difference.
Seven in 10 say the pregnancy of Palin's unmarried teenage daughter doesn't affect their view of Palin. By 2-to-1 most say the mother of five — including an infant with Down syndrome — made the right choice to become McCain's running mate.
Women and men back Palin's choice to run about equally. Republicans and independents are far likelier than Democrats to support her decision.
Four in 10 say Palin's choice to have her youngest child after a diagnosis of Down syndrome makes them feel more favorably about her, while just over half say it had no impact.
The poll was conducted Thursday and involved telephone interviews with 505 adults. It had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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"Just remember there's way more dirt on Hitlery than Palin."
Shouldn't it be Hitlery or Stalin?
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dirtbag
climber
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"I'll try again since my point was missed by most. The salient question at this point for those in opposition to the Reps is why is Palin so popular with the majority of Americans at this point? I didn't say they would all vote for the Reps. I qualified by saying that many may not agree with all her positions; but, it appears, I must spell it out to you: the Dems had better understand her positive impact on the electorate. If they don't figure that out and respond intelligently to it, they will blunder badly when going after this lady. I try to help, but my compassion is so easily misunderstood. "
Woody, she isn't as popular as you think. Read the link I posted above from Pollster.com.
Yes Flashlight, she should be taken seriously. She could be president. That's a horrifying thought.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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haha, touche, Fet!
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Flashlight
climber
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Well dirtbag, if you guys would nominate a worthwhile candidate at the TOP of your ticket you wouldn't have to worry about her. Not too much confidence in your guy, eh?
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho
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She's so popular because everyone wants to see her fail. I, for one, would love to see her cry. Not Hillary tears, no no no. I mean a full on the-sky-is-falling I-really-do-suck-after-all hankyfest.
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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You KNOW she's going to cry during the debates to garnish sympathy from uncommitted voters, so Biden needs to counter her move by himself crying BEFORE she does!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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And why do Dems keep running fuking lawyers on their ticket. Check the record, I think Jimmy 'the peanut' Carter was the last non-lawyer.
People don't like lawyers. Sorry, Anders.
Shucks, I'll take a tv broadcaster and Naval aviator anyday over silly lawyers.
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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work defines the person Bluering?
Isn't that a MARXIST point of view? ;)
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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bluering,
Who hurt you?
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