Tuolumne Meadows, Kim Aufhauser

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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 9, 2008 - 02:10pm PT
That only brings the debate back around to shooting lawyers.
jiimmy

Boulder climber
san diego
Apr 9, 2008 - 02:27pm PT
Karl,
Yoru always so full of crap
SteveW

Trad climber
State of confusion
Apr 9, 2008 - 02:41pm PT
I just realized how funny his last name is. . .
"aufhauser". . . say it a few times. . . .
awfuser officer. . . A stretch, but talk about
irony. . .
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 9, 2008 - 02:49pm PT
Jiimmy wrote
"Karl,
Yoru always so full of crap"

I am! That's why I can forgive others, cause I understand the human condition.

But I'd feel worse if somebody who could spell his own name and one full sentence thought I was full of crap, because then I'd suspect I'm crappier than i already know I am.

Peace

karl
MZiebell

Social climber
Prescott, AZ
Apr 9, 2008 - 03:25pm PT
Just to keep the record straight (in fairness to Kim):

1) Kim left the NPS - he was a seasonal ranger who found useful (and better paying) work as an educator. He was not asked to leave.

2) There is not a shred of evidence to suggest that Kim's wounds were self-inflicted. Self-inflicted wounds are easy to identify. It is very difficult to mask those signs. This possibility was meticulously investigated by both NPS and FBI investigators who concluded unambiguously that Kim could not and did not inflict his own wounds.

Finally, on a personal note: having interacted with Kim one-on-one, he just doesn't seem like the kind of fellow who would shot himself to make a point. He was vociferous in pressuring the higher-ups at Yosemite to adhere to existing NPS policy that ALL rangers (not just permanent status, road patrol rangers) receive protective equipment and better training. Most of us who worked as NPS Rangers at the time very much appreciated his efforts.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 9, 2008 - 05:27pm PT
So MZ, what you're saying is that this is all a terrible tragedy?
A man wrongfully accused and pilloried?



He should call OJ.
Together I bet they'd be able to find the REAL shooter.
(or at least break into a room at the Palace Station.)
CF

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2008 - 07:10pm PT
I remember waking up early morning on 7/16/93 to the sound of helicopters coming in. By the time i got up all of the campground and lodge had been evacuated. People left all kinds of stuff in the campground as they had to leave quickly.

I was working as the emp housing manager so once everyone had been evacuated and the area sealed off i had to go to each housing area with the swat team. They would go to each tent and do a swat entrance and then once cleared i would lock the tent.

They set up the IC at the lodge and had all kinds of law enforcement from all agencies and lots of helicopters. I had to go through armed road blocks when I would go the valley and back. The searched my camper top to bottom each time while holding guns on you.

Now this all stemmed from a report of Kim getting shot by poachers by that pond on the right several miles down from the pass. He was shot at night in the leg. Rumors latter surfaced that he was practicing his quick draw from his back up piece on his ankle and shot himself. These are just rumors and i do not know what really happened.
Gene

climber
Apr 9, 2008 - 07:14pm PT
There seems to be a lot of "Ready! Fire! Aim!" on this topic.
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Apr 9, 2008 - 07:51pm PT
MZ has a point, he does not seem to be the kind of chap who would shoot himself to make a point. Lets e-mail him and ask him to respond. West valley College must have a link to his e-mail.

e-mail sent!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 9, 2008 - 07:55pm PT
Does Klaus strike you as "the kind of chap" to blow blue smoke up your butt?

By all means, bring him in on the talk.
I'd like to see that.
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
Apr 9, 2008 - 08:10pm PT
This oughta be good!

Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Apr 9, 2008 - 08:49pm PT
one fine spring day in '92 a U.S. Border patrol officer discharged a .45 round into the tile floor of the small retail store in the Bianchi plant in Temecula, he was trying on holsters - scared the pee outa the admin staff sitting behind a sliding glass door...perfect little hole in the tile - we all heard it. Pretty funny.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 9, 2008 - 09:04pm PT
Must've been poachers Ray.
MZiebell

Social climber
Prescott, AZ
Apr 9, 2008 - 09:16pm PT
Klaus,

I think you and I have been at this before on this forum.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=83775

(I was "Good morning" back then...)

Anyway, nothing about this case has changed since then.

Edit: Wow! reading through that 2005 thread was fun if only to notice who's still with us. Ron, Nefarious, and Klaus... What happened to AngryT? Hey Klaus: you gonna call me a liar again?









Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Apr 14, 2008 - 06:48pm PT
A couple of hours ago my phone rang, it was Kim Aufauser responding to my e-mail. (see above) I was taken by surprise at first and felt like I was caught with my hand in the cookie jar.

Kim has become an urban legend at this point. He said he does not respond to the media or various web threads that have approached the topic of his mishap, but calls the person directly to give his assessment of the story.

As Kim related the story to me, he said he was on patrol in Tuolumne about 10 pm when he spotted a pedestrian where no pedestrian should have been. He pulled over to interview the person and without thinking put himself in a compromising position. As quick as you take a fall climbing, the suspect (male or female unknown) pulled a revolver and shot him, then fled into the forest.

Anyone who knows me, he said, knows I am incapable of shooting myself. He was in the hospital and had nothing further to do with the search. He was interviewed by the various investigating agencies and gave no one an indication that he shot himself.

He had left the park service two years prior to the incident to teach at West Valley College. Being a climber himself and mountain biker, hiker, etc he returned to Tuolumne for a summer job as a ranger the year he was shot. He wanted to spend the summer getting paid to be in the Sierra. Don’t we all?

Kim frequents J-Tree, the Sierra and various climbing venues. I am sure you may run into him one day. I was very impressed that he called and I must say, from meeting him in the past and this conversation, he is an upstanding guy.


Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Apr 14, 2008 - 07:07pm PT
I assumed that long stretch of road before the meadows where you would not expect someone to be walking.
wildone

climber
Where you want to be
Apr 14, 2008 - 07:18pm PT
Must have been a revolver if they didn't collect a casing...;)
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
Apr 14, 2008 - 07:37pm PT
Maybe says a lot that he called. I don't know him personally, so I'll leave that judgment up to you guys.

I will say that what he stated above, that has been relayed to us is a bit different from what's on the actual report, however. Probably things that don't really matter, but still....



Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Apr 14, 2008 - 07:45pm PT
revolver was my word, he said gun.
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
Apr 14, 2008 - 08:28pm PT
Ummmm... a little more like the reports states "he spotted a transient at the side of the road and stopped his patrol vehicle to talk with him. The transient immediately ran into the woods; as Aufhauser crossed the road in pursuit, he was shot three times - twice in the chest and once in the leg - by a small caliber weapon."

Could be jsut a mixup of words, but there *is* a difference between saying the 'the guy shot me on the road then ran into the woods, versus he ran into the woods, and as I pursued him into the woods he shot me.' Regardless, it's difference and the wording suggests two different scenarios.

Anyhow, just pointing it out. Stuff like that seems to matter to investigators and attorneys. Honestly, it doesn't effect me either way.
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