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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Here is an example of a typical national forest order allowing temporary hunting stands / treestands
https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd542748.pdf
Temporary stands and cameras are legal.
Must be marked with identifying information.
Must be removed within 1-2 weeks of hunting season.
Must not cut any branches or penetrate the bark, or use any nails or bolts.
No offroading.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Hah. Pretty funny getting busted by the missed cam. Looks like a "statement" against hunting? The stands and cams are are a pretty lame way to hunt, IMHO. But if it's legal, those two got some splanin' to do.
To stir the pot: For those who think it's okay that the hunting gear was taken because, well, hunting is evil, would it be okay for nature lovers who want to enjoy the beautiful rocks of almost any cragging area to remove anchors, draws, bolts, etc? After all, these are permanent eyesores, right?
Chode for thought.
BAd
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Jim Clipper
climber
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Hope I'm not assuming the best. Still, maybe they wanted a tree house for the grandkids.
Would a tree stand make a good platform for high lines? High lining during deer season?
Will hunters be pissed?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Maybe the McLeans thought they were preventing poaching...?
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Trump
climber
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I’m pretty confident that if we just think our own thoughts hard enough that we’ll be able to tell what they were thinking and what the results of the case will be. Let’s try.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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High on assumption and short on facts - rules from Pennsylvania, BLM and the USFS mean zero if you don't know where this even happened.
I have to say - they interviewed the owners in one of those links above - and maybe if there was a full set of teeth and a brain cell between them - I too wouldn't feel compelled to vandalize their vehicles.
More will come out over the week, for sure.
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tradryan
Big Wall climber
San Diego
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Wow, didn't expect to see that. That sucks! Andrew is a really nice guy... hope it works out. I'm guessing he just doesn't like hunters...
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Ugh.
I find tree stands and chat with bow hunters all the time (especially now...as 'tis the season).
Ran into a feller above Alta a short while ago. Full camo. Bow. Nice guy. Asked him how he did...he laughed and said based on his empty pack? Showed me a pic of a bud that had gotten a nice buck. A few days later, at my favorite Greek take out, the owner and I are chattin' about hunting. He mentions the nice buck that I'd seen a pic of. Small world. Or, given how close the Wasatch is to town, maybe not so small.
UAFC party this week. I'm sure this'll have traction there.
Shitty deal.
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m.
Trad climber
UT
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I’ve known Andrew McLean for decades. He is a fine, fine person, a committed environmentalist, and a mighty contributor to the climbing and skiing communities. Total integrity. You can’t find a person who’s more fun to share a single malt with on a cold night. I support Andrew 100%.
Cheers,
mc.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Somebody stole some meth?
More power to them as long as they didn't dump it in a waterway that flows into the Pacific
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Be interesting to see how this goes. The area in question is near the top of I-80 between SLC and Park City, so not the remote backwoods. And there are a lot of deer, elk and moose in the area.
The Park Record article quoted the hunter as saying the tree stands had been there for a month with no problem...that's a pretty long time to leave one up.
One of the other articles mentioned vandalism of hunters trucks. Whatever Maclean's intentions were in doing this, I can't see him doing that. And given his wife is an attorney, you wouldn't think they would have done this without looking into the law.
It will be interesting to see how this goes.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Hunting is bad, factory farmed meat is good! (Sarcasm)
I was going to get my license this year, but a fire on my property kinda threw a wrench in the gears. Burned up my 30-30!
Vandalizing hunters trucks is silly. Those hicks are armed!
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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There’s something else going on for the hunters to be getting a lot of resistance. Most people get hunting. I don’t think any sane adult is up there vandalizing vehicles because they are worried about “murdering animals”.
I really didn’t like the look or attitude of the tree stand owners there on prime time news. Smug - way too smug. They’ll get theirs if they have it coming.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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I agree, dude looks like a doosh. Most people are.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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And given his wife is an attorney, you wouldn't think they would have done this without looking into the law.
That’s a pretty naive assumption! What? A lawyer did something against the law?
Just ask Don Corleone.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Sep 10, 2018 - 06:22am PT
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.....looking into the law......
She already looked into the law... looking into the camera is what ended up with a felony arrest.
Depends on the prosecutor, hopefully she has friends there. Assuming no other offenses they'll both get a slap on the wrist and be off back to hiking without bolt cutters.
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Nick Danger
Ice climber
Arvada, CO
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Sep 10, 2018 - 07:42am PT
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SRB's story above about "man caught consorting with beaver" is such a slow pitch over home plate that I almost feel guilty letting that one go by, but I'm gonna decline taking a a swing at it this time.
Just sayin'
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