Staph infection from climbing gyms?

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looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33
Mar 28, 2016 - 04:38pm PT
I only go to the climbing gym anymore for the socializing anyway. So, this is a great excuse to just talk and then drink beer in the parking lot. Yah!!!
Mei

Trad climber
I'm back!
Mar 28, 2016 - 05:29pm PT
Mei - you're gonna cite livestrong as evidence? Give me a break...I only trust Armstrong for blood doping advice.

Good point. Here are a couple of links from a more credible source:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/276809/Gyms-and-Community-Acquired-Staphylococcus-aureus-CA-MRSA

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2005836/Climbing-Related-Staph-Infections

Each has 60+/- posts, more than what a climbing trip report would receive on average. Are we living in fear?
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Mar 28, 2016 - 05:34pm PT
Those little climbing shoes at the gym, from the toilet right to the holds.

Feces and Urine Bacteria,Skin Dander, Carpet Foam and the holds all embedded.

If it stinks!!!

Walk away.

All gyms stink of this.

At least outdoors the sun kills most of that nasty stuff.

I don't go into gyms EVER.

Have fun Gym bags!
Stewart Johnson

Mountain climber
lake forest
Mar 28, 2016 - 06:10pm PT
Ha ha!
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Mar 28, 2016 - 10:14pm PT
There is a universal solution to the problem of getting staph from climbing gyms.......
WBraun

climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 10:47pm PT
Every night when Gym closes they should boil the climbing walls .......
Mei

Trad climber
I'm back!
Mar 28, 2016 - 10:49pm PT
They do. And they scorch the floor.
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Mar 29, 2016 - 12:11am PT
If you can get an infection from the gym, what can you get on the Nose? Camp 6 must have some bacteria that have never been found anywhere else.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Mar 29, 2016 - 02:54am PT
There is a universal solution to the problem of getting staph from climbing gyms.......



The same technique can be used to avoid getting VD from a Bangkok prostitute.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 29, 2016 - 06:15am PT
The staff at our gym spelled staph wrong.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 07:40am PT
Roots posted
eeeww..no more crack climbing at gyms for me. Again, I never even considered these issues and most people I know consider me a germ-a- phoebe.

Be aware that all of us have staph growing on our skin right now. If you get a staph infection climbing it is very likely it is because you broke your skin and some of your own bacteria was pushed into the wound. We no doubt share bacteria on climbing holds (especially you f*#kers who don't wash your hands in the bathroom) but you can cut yourself on a sterile chunk of rock and still get an infection.



locker posted
"C. difficile bacteria are passed in feces and spread to food, surfaces and objects when people who are infected don't wash their hands thoroughly. The bacteria produce spores that can persist in a room for weeks or months. If you touch a surface contaminated with C. difficile, you may then unknowingly swallow the bacteria."...

Luckily C. diff is usually suppressed by your normal gut flora and you probably won't get a symptomatic infection until you start taking some antibiotics for another reason.
wonder_woman

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 08:08am PT
Rock & Ice article about Community Acquired MRSA in climbing gyms
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 08:27am PT
Locker, you're the best.


Reposting this awesome article from the illustrious Janet Bergman on the issue.

HOW RISKY IS A GYM, REALLY?

MRSA bacteria live on the skin and within moist body cavities such as nasal passages and under fingernails, and spread most often by hand-to-hand contact. The bacteria can survive on a foreign surface, such as a climbing hold, for days. According to tests, MRSA can survive on clean stainless steel surfaces for more than 72 hours. The bacteria cause infections most often through entering open wounds, but that is not always necessary for infection.

A hold on a route at a typical gym may be contacted by hundreds of hands and feet every few days. “Imagine vigorously shaking hands with 500 people,” says Day. It may not be only where a person’s fingers have been that you have to worry about on those climbing holds though. Gym users who rent shoes often wear them without socks. People walk on mats and every shoe that touches a hold has stepped on a mat. Consider the number of bodies lounging on or impacting the mats at the base of climbs.

“We must be clear about what is hypothetical and what is fact,” says Dr. Paul Auerbach, clinical professor of surgery in emergency medicine at Stamford University. Auerbach is also founder of the Wilderness Medical Society, and author of the blog “Medicine for the Outdoors” at www.healthline.com. He maintains that the actual risk for contracting CA-MRSA infection at a gym will not be known until bacterial cultures are taken and the germs are identified.

“Are people in climbing gyms at greater risk than persons who grab the banister at a theater? It’s possible, but we don’t yet have any proof.” Auerbach insists that until there is data, there is no reason to panic. He adds, however, that given the risk for transmission of any bacteria from a shared surface, it is logical to take precautions.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 09:06am PT
Locker you're a freak show. Also most people say "c DIFF"
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 10:07am PT
I dunno Russ looks like we've built up some gnar immunities.


Like eating poison oak leaves.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 10:35am PT
Got it, Locker. I will put out THE memo!
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Mar 29, 2016 - 10:40am PT
Locker, maybe you are thinking of this condition?
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 29, 2016 - 11:03am PT
What about the affect of MRSA or C-diff on Nylon6,6? Can MRSA colonize microfractures in climbing gear?

Inquiring minds want to know.
cat t.

climber
california
Mar 29, 2016 - 11:29am PT
What I wonder (and why I discouraged fivethirty from buying antibiotic ointment for his mangled hands last week): does washing your hands with antibacterial soap (before or after cutting them in the gym or outside) increase the chances you're going to get MRSA????? Maybe it is better to keep your hands coated in a hearty stock of benign bacteria...
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Mar 29, 2016 - 04:25pm PT
does washing your hands with antibacterial soap (before or after cutting them in the gym or outside) increase the chances you're going to get MRSA????? Maybe it is better to keep your hands coated in a hearty stock of benign bacteria...

Absolutely, there is no evidence that antibacterial soaps provide any health benefits over regular soaps. The FDA will soon be adopting a new rule on the use and marketing of these products. The proposed rule would have required manufacturer's to prove a medical benefit, and although it hasn't been finalized, you'll see that the major players have reformulated their products, probably because they can't back up their previous claims.

To be clear, there are important, even life saving uses of antimicrobial products, but daily hand washing is not one of them. Use regular soap, or alcohol based sanitizer, but not anything that intentionally leaves an active antimicrobial residue. For first-aid of even minor cuts, totally different scenario, in those cases: kill kill kill.

All this over-sanitizing is just training your body to be weak.

TE


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