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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
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Seems like a nice kid. Good on 'im. Hope the money funds some great adventures.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 22, 2015 - 03:02pm PT
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It was a beautiful piece of flabbergastrionics.
Yes I created a new word due to that post.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Apr 22, 2015 - 04:26pm PT
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Whaal, just about every company and/or person(s) in the company harm the environment in some manner.
Where is the scoresheet being kept?
The (Un)happy Planet World Map is color coded by evaluating each country’s human well-being and environmental impact. Not many happy colors on that map.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Apr 22, 2015 - 10:42pm PT
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It's a strange phenomenon that when one or another of the flock gains center stage, others are quick to throw tomatoes, under the guise of purity or "green" causes or (fill inthe blanks). One wonders if in their heart of hearts it isn't plain jealousy or runaway smugless that's really doing the talking. That much said, I've always insisted that the climbing community is big enough to accomodate all perspectives and catagories, from the heroic performers like Kevin, to the bitterest detractors posing as advocates.
JL
Yup, John, I've said the same thing about climbing ethics. You have the various camps, I explain all of them to a friend, they ask what can be done? I said I think it already is being done. Climbers posture and argue under the guise of whatever... and in the end things stay somewhat pure and somewhat progressive. I say we kind of need both camps.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Apr 22, 2015 - 11:06pm PT
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I say why don't we all dog pile on ECF. He probably doesn't climb 5.14 so he's fair game. :)
And as to the 'are kids spoiled' thread I say if you own a car, a rope, a couple of pairs of shoes and can afford a tank of gas....then you ( we) are incredibly spoiled and responsible -collectively and individually - for the coming end of human civilization. Rant over..peace out. :)
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Apr 23, 2015 - 03:39am PT
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The "Professional stunt. Do not attempt." made me smile (like labrat).
I intend to follow that advice.
I think it is great that climbers get both the recognition and money from doing ads.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, Colorado
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Apr 23, 2015 - 05:06am PT
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*heavy sigh*
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 06:27am PT
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Differing viewpoints are part of an intelligent discussion based on facts. All you seem to be doing is talking sh#t and hiding behind an avatar, can't even use your name. . .a real class act. . .df
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 23, 2015 - 06:35am PT
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First off, go f yourself, you don't know me.
I did turn down several corporate sponsorships.
Were you born with a big roll of bills shoved up your a*#? An examination of who or what is pure always seems to be so revealing. Was your prospective corporate sponsor Hospicare or Prevail?
Did you turn your sponsors down as an adult or child?
The guys worked hard for this.
Survival 101, first food and shelter, then entertainment. :)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 23, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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LOL
Do we need a separate thread to guess at all the corporate sponsors ECF turned down?
Polident?
Depends?
Those stair lift seats?
Geritol?
Chia pets?
Sea monkeys?
Go Kevin! Get some!
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 23, 2015 - 10:22am PT
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Climbers have been cashing in on money from big corporations for a long time. Ron Kauk did a TV commercial for a big Detroit car company; John Bachar did a TV commercial for disposable razors; Alex Honnold did a TV commercial for CitiBank to name a few. Why pick on KJ if selling out to corporate America is such a travesty?
Personally, I have no problem with these guys making a few $$$.
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overwatch
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 10:27am PT
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ECF lost any credibility when resorting to go f*#k yourself
Edit:
I meant ECF not the Op.
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overwatch
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 10:34am PT
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possibility of credibility?
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jstan
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 11:26am PT
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I have no problem with these guys making a few $$$
!. I was offered a job associated with climbing. I turned it down because I already had a good job AND I didn't think I was the best person for the job offered.
2. I participated in a magazine article. Neither I nor the magazine brought up the subject of money. Personally I thought there should not have been an article at all. I took part so I could emphasize in the article the things I thought important.
3. I was given $12 for going on a Yosemite rescue before YOSAR was formed. I donated it away.
Why?
Climbing is a serious undertaking. I wanted to keep crystal clear in my own mind, why I was climbing.
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OTC
Social climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
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"philosophy is talk on a cereal box"
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couchmaster
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:24pm PT
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Largo nails the truth again, as usual. To ECF upthread or anyone ragging on KJ or climbers doing commercials, tell us what you do for a living and we'll all rag on you for selling out. Haha! Think about that for a bit. You can see how much of a hypocrite you are in our eyes for ragging on KJ. I have too much of my own hypocrisy to bitch about just about all of the bullshit out there. Yeah, I'm a bigger hypocrite than most of you all I'd suspect. I'm happy to be working though. Like Moose, I'd do that commercial and for 1/2 the price they paid KJ (psst, I'd go much less than that but don't want to give it all away right off the bat. LOL)
KJ (or Tommy or whomever) should be ending his commercials by saying "I'm Kevin Jorgenson, I climb for a living. And do an occasional commercial too."
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:26pm PT
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couchmaster
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:30pm PT
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^^^ LOL! ^^^ Hilarious graphic Survival!
I think the whole "selling out" thing is pretty much total bullsh#t. We all do it -it's called "work", unless we happen to be trustfunders. Good on KJ for getting "work". It beats starving everytime.
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OTC
Social climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:42pm PT
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concur
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Apr 23, 2015 - 01:15pm PT
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Duracell doesn't give a crap about him, climbing, or even sports in general. They care about selling more units than energizer.Period.
No sh!t...of course that is the reason.
I'm actually stoked on whomever at Duracell thought to use him in their commercial. He climbed at night with a headlamp that made news around the world. Genius marketing. Period.
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