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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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+1 for Crusher's approach.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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letting the renters know who you are and that you have a little problem with them may also backfire, they may well be the type to retaliate against you personally for having nerve to complain, etc
I am a landlord myself, and I want to be the one contacted first if problems, not my renters
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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poop on their ropes.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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-1 for Crusher's theoretical on the matter. They will absolutely find out who wrote the letter and retaliate. Face reality - your neighbors are as#@&%es, always have been and always will be. It's not your fault nor your place to go deal with them. The last neighbors called the cops on them too, so will the next ones.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, dapper dan... say, first off, do you have any good neighbors that can 'fill you in on them more?'
then, when or if you see them outside sometimes, busy or whatever, offer somthing?
1)for example... my new neighbors here--i had no clue what they were like so:
they had some huge pile of leaves to clean up from the folks, before... so i just took my rake over and helped them, and let them know that i went through the same thing...
we got to talk about the neighborhood and i shared how it is usually quiet (hint :) kind of) ... and later got to share that i write, so if they ever DID have a party, etc, to let me know ahead of time, so we could work out the noise, etc... but--turned out things like that never came up with them...
2)then, another time, one neighbor in a trail park area was continually play loud music, it was awful... so, i took a dream catcher over to him and shared that i was new there adn that i was a WRITER and if we could work out the noise, etc... turned out, we never had trouble, again...
3)another time, same thing, but tv, and music, loud...
worked that out, the same way... took him a gift and explained that it was nice to have new neighbors, but that his tv came write in my window, :O
which he did not realize...
4)another time, it was harder, these neighbors, had loud parties, but not often, it was just that me, i did not want to 'walk over to some rowdies' at night, :O ... so later, i got to share when i saw the folks outside:
again, 'that i was a writer' ... turned out, then, when they DID have a party, we worked it out...
5, 6, 7) NOT GOOD... was guys beating up their gals, in the room right behind my wall, :( but--they did keep the music, down... landlord had remind them--but--it was easy, due to the her explaining the THIN WALLS...
ususally a guy to guy, ... family to family, or just 'say, how you doing?' can lead to a share...
IF YOU EXPLAIN you are teachers and need to grade paper, or whatever, it is NOT threatening their PRIDE and their 'king of the mountain' stance,
as bad...
now, if it's drug type folks, well... you will have to decide that, on
your own, how to handle it, :(
not sure what to do, on that one...
but a kind approach worked best, so far... hope it will work for you...
oh, and a legit common senses type reason... and not just:
'being annoyed' etc, 'disliking their habits' (rude or rough though they be) ...
edit:
think it was norton? yes, landlord, you can go that way, too... if you live in the same building, etc..
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2014 - 08:06pm PT
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The irony of life is so impressive . I remember being a young college student , living in an apartment complex that was way too nice for us. We had parties , sleepovers, drugs , electronic music , the whole nine yards . Maybe this is karma for those years!
But I can think back on my teenage self and realize how selfish and immature I was , how rude and bratty I could be . If someone would have approached me back then about noise , or being a good neighbor, I probably would have laughed in there face and turned the volume up .
Thing is, we got evicted eventually , and that was that .
I file this under "things to reach my kids when they grow up" , how to be a decent neighbor, and how to think of others...
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
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Thanks Sully , what town you in ?
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lubbockclimber
Trad climber
lubbock,tx
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Just call the police every time. Disturbing the peace is illegal and you have the right to peace just as much as they have the right to fun
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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You should just start to be super loud at about 530AM. They do not sound like early risers lol. Rev up the Prius, maybe borrow a friends dog that like to bark, take out the trash loudly etc.
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overwatch
climber
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Your multiple caveats limit your possible responses
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, sullly...
as to this, wow:
This place will probably go for 5k a month when we leave.
i been away far to many years, to ever have a clue, as to rents, anymore...
back in the 70's, i remember renting a duplex, in san jose, right UNDER one of the flight 'lanes' (usually, landing) of the san jose airport...
it rented for about 400? think it was, on a dead-end street...
such a small old neighborhood, no noise troubles, and folks new each other, and us 'renters' that came and went, etc... usually worked out okay for them, ...
wheww... i knew a guy, there, later, in late 90's that paid 1,000 a month, for a small one bedroom, apt, :O in one of the nice sides of san jose...
can't remember what my friend, with her condo, in santa clara paid, but when she lost her job, she took in the 'squatters' --hoping of course, that they were 'good rents'... :(
could NOT even imagine, all the 'up coast' ... :O
*miss all the old days and the orchards... :(
hope you get all this to turn out, good, dapperdan...
:)
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Neebee's got the right idea on this, and reinforces the point that you've got to think carefully about who you will approach.
A dream catcher is a very symbolic gift. What a clever thing to bring to a situation, and a key for having a friendly conversation to learn about each other (maybe) and drop hints about your need for quiet time (the goal).
You have to think like a poker player. Show yourself to be friendly and reasonable, but only in situations where you are sure you are safe and are not going to be misunderstood. Sometimes you have to keep such neighbors guessing and in the dark, and protect yourself and the ones you love.
Thanks for the share Neebee.
--Bill
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Floorabove
climber
The Gunks y'all
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Every situation is different.
A photo of the situation (neighbors) would help size-up the problem.
You know;college kids,or loud after work, blue collar partiers or bangers or a house full of Latin Kings,all kind of call for a different approach.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Do not approach them. It will backfire. I doubt an anonymous note would do anything.
Running on the assumption these are renters...Locate the landlord or property management company in charge of the property and complain to them. It's their job to manage tenants.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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people on this site who have complained about being tooled BITD vs people who are now landlords and advise calling the cops in this situation
if you drew a venn diagram i wonder how that would look
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say... bill, as to this: yes,
a little gift is nice, as, it welcomes them to the neighborhood and and show that care about respect... :)
Show yourself to be friendly and reasonable, but only in situations where you are sure you are safe and are not going to be misunderstood.
yes, a few times, like at night, that once, it was kind of scary...
(party time, thing)...
though, through these situations, three of the folks, later, became friends, later...
especially one, and his wife...
though, a few others, i'd NEVER invite over... we were just
neighborly, in respect, then, not like good buddies...
wow, ekat note:
also, WOW!!! EKAT... !
yes!!!!... i did HAVE to do that, when i lived in the house, where lived behind my WALL (not big rock-wall by the way) ;)
the bass and THE TV bass loud speakers, :O
buzzed right into the kitchen, where i had to study and even shook the windows, :O THEY were so 'caught up in it' they just did not realize that walls do NOT contain it, i reckon...
kind of like they were in a world of sound, far away, :)
the first two various tenants did pretty well, as to mentioning the BASS, specifically, and it helped that i had 'ribs that i brought home from my dishwashing job' and could share them, :)
(they were younger kids) ... :)
but, one family, yeah, i did finally have to ask the landlord to let them know, but the 'guy' there and is gal, was kind of 'precarious' situation...
but that bass, wow... and with SPEAKERS, :o
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Actually.. only one person recommended the cops as a first call.
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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I would try the standard Taco response.
Have dueling parties. Make yours even louder. Show them what it is like for a change...
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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It's their job to manage tenants. No, it's not. A management company collects rent and does light maintenance - that's it. It sounds like the OP got evicted from a managed apartment complex, possibly with on site management - a different animal entirely. For a single family home or condo, you will never get evicted unless you are either missing rent or cooking meth.
Here's the other thing you're missing that's important - the relationship between landlord and tenant is way more important to the landlord (or should be!) than the relationship of tenant to neighbors. I really couldn't give a sh#t if my neighbors don't like my tenant - if they are paying the rent, taking care of the place, etc, they are a good tenant. If the neighbors call the cops on the tenant, I really don't want to hear about it, I'm not a party to the situation. My biggest problem will arise if the tenant decides he does not like me anymore and wants to f*#k up my place, stop paying rent, etc - these things are the real problems for a landlord, not noise and parties - I live 15 miles away, can't hear it from my place.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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I was referring to the property owner to clarify.
Sorry.. I guess I'm just a different type of landlord. If my new tenants were throwing huge parties every week and disrupting the neighborhood and probably destroying my house...... I would want to know about it. Someone throwing parties every week is not "taking care of it" nor are they "good tenants" in my view.
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