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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Jan 15, 2014 - 09:46pm PT
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There was an earlier thread here which had minimally more tact: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2311879/RIP-Geoff-Farrar
Christopher said: "Something a little off-putting about the tone here -- unless you are the sort of person who doesn't mind jokes when one of your friends goes splat -- "
We all use to do that sort of thing around the campfire (classic Roper story from the 1960's of finding the dead guy in LA Chimney and yelling down that the dead guys down coat didn't fit as an example), it doesn't carry over well to the internet where family searches can bring up total bullsh#t. This is some pretty strange stuff, and it's still damned sad for the old guy who got killed family and friends. Thanks for the reminder.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Jan 15, 2014 - 10:12pm PT
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I am never impressed till stuff like this involves backhoes.
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clinker
Trad climber
California
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Jan 15, 2014 - 10:17pm PT
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"Typical white
boy behavior."
Now that is a racist making a racist comment.
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Rudbud
Gym climber
Grover Beach, CA
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Jan 15, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
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Did it have something to do with a disagreement on ethics? If so does anyone know what there handles where on the taco?
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abrams
Sport climber
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Jan 15, 2014 - 10:55pm PT
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Someone find some pictures of the base of the rock where
'it' happened. Why was a hammer just laying there? Was someone
building a port-a ledge or a rain shelter?
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jstan
climber
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Jan 16, 2014 - 12:49am PT
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I was at Carderock between 67 and 83. Don't remember Geoff however. Carderock has always been a great place to talk to friends and get in a bit of running after work. Spent many fine hours there. This is horrible beyond belief.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jan 16, 2014 - 01:33am PT
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So sad to hear. Have respect people, this was one of us.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jan 17, 2014 - 03:03am PT
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They also say they questioned him about these lacerations, thus implying they were hammer blows, but the medical examiner labels them "lacerations", which is technically defined as a jagged tear of the skin distinctly different from an incision. Given I cant imagine repeated hammer blows to the hands would result in "lacerations", but instead do fit well with someone trying to remove that persons hands if they were choking them, I imagine this is why manslaughter was filed instead of murder.
I was a carpenter for 40 years. I guarantee you I can give you lacerations with the claw end of a hammer.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Jan 17, 2014 - 10:37am PT
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Y'all need to really worry when your partner brings along the #1 murder weapon in the USA: a baseball bat; ball and peen hammers are ranked #2. At least according to the FBI...
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v.
climber
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Jan 19, 2014 - 11:33am PT
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absolutely agree. very well written and carefully thought out. that is our irreplaceable carderock geoff.
One day, I was by the cliff and watched as this Pekingese approached. It was growling, barking, and angry and I wondered why. Then alongside it, I saw dave and realized that the dog belonged to him. I have never seen a dog behave that way towards his “master”. it was amusing at first...
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David Plotnikoff
Mountain climber
Emerald Hills, CA
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Jan 31, 2014 - 05:23am PT
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This is the latest as of 1.30.14, from the Washington Post.
Bristow, Va., man indicted on manslaughter charge in fellow rock climber’s death
By Matt Zapotosky, Published: January 30
A rock climber who authorities say killed a fellow climber in the Carderock Recreation Area near Potomac was formally indicted Wednesday on a federal voluntary manslaughter charge.
David DiPaolo, 31, of Bristow, Va., was arrested earlier this month in connection with the death of 69-year-old Geoffrey Farrar, who was found bleeding from the head and lying mortally injured at the base of a cliff near the Billy Goat Trail in Montgomery County on Dec. 28.
Word initially spread through the rock-climbing community that Farrar — known to some by the nickname “Carderock Geoff” because he was such a fixture at the recreation area that is part of the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal National Historical Park — had taken a tragic fall.
Federal investigators, however, found his injuries were not consistent with a fall, but instead with blows with blows from a silver-colored claw hammer that was found on the ground nearby.
According to court documents, DiPaolo told police that Farrar tried to choke him at the base of a cliff. Fearing that he was about to lose consciousness, DiPaolo told police, he hit Farrar in the head with the hammer, according to a criminal complaint.
DiPaolo’s father, Vincent, has said his son — who met Farrar at Carderock 20 years ago as an 11-year-old interested in climbing — was “no murderer” but would act to defend himself. No lawyer was listed for David DiPaolo in court records Thursday.
DiPaolo had already been charged with manslaughter in connection with the death, and the indictment is merely a formal step to move the case through court. He was scheduled to appear in federal district court in Greenbelt, Md., Thursday, prosecutors said.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
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Jan 31, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
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At least he didn't use an ice ax, either store bought or custom.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jan 31, 2014 - 01:09pm PT
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You can have my hammer IF you can pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
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weezy
climber
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Jan 31, 2014 - 01:21pm PT
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all you big tough guys need hammers to compensate for your tiny penises.
obama's coming to take your claw hammer, you nutjobs.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jan 31, 2014 - 08:48pm PT
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All I got to say is he'd better be afeared of the pointy end if he shows up. Cold, dead fingers, I tell ya!
And prolly both hands too!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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From the article linked by V. :
"...and more than a tiny bit of hand-wringing by national climbing groups concerned that this incident might somehow be interpreted as another sign that the heyday of traditional rock climbing, and the largesse of the industries that support it, may be drawing to a close"
Huh?
A little something from the author of that article to support that claim would have been nice.
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