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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Trad is to sportclimbing like new wave was to punk. A definition by what it's not!
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Laramie
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Within my free complimentary copy of Ascent 2013 from Mountain Gear is an article addressing the title of this thread by Dean Flemming pgs 96-97. Defining the Line, a lexicological look at trad and sport climbing.
For Dean exceptions can be cited everywhere to about any defination we have for trad yet the term(s) [trad and sport] is evolving. But we can tell a lot from, "the type of equipment that is needed to complete it[the climb]."
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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agree with above. This photo surfaced from the early 60's and shows hints of what was to come.
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Tarbuster
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
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Yes Jesse that's the spirit!
This thread needs pictures, THOSE kinds of pictures.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
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Are u trad if you run outta cum? Well, strictly speaking, no. See: perpetual adolescence = young dumb & full of cum.
It's a state of mind as much as anything else you see, or stubbornness.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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kooky pointed felt hat
I feel worthless now.
Where can you get a felt pointed hat? A nice red one like Mr. Galwas'!
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Or a terswary.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Can you distinguish a trad climber from a sportclimber by appearance?
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Tarbuster
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
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I'll be right back with that in a bit Munge,
but in the meantime ...
Sheridan Anderson: how can we get much more trad?
Yes folks, and thank you Jay! A quick visual scan reveals this man absolutely not ever ever to be confused with a sport climber!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
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Trad is to sportclimbing like new wave was to punk. A definition by what it's not!
YES by all means: we need to expand this concept. Definition by exclusion.
Question: A TRAD CLIMBER IS NOT?
Review the precepts in the second post first however ...
Pull the rip cord on your lists people!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 05:34pm PT
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This is very important work we are doing here folks.
God's work, if you will, not to impugn the faithful!
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Laramie
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Tarbuster,
it seems traditional for a trad climber to be concerned about the definition of his group and sporty for a sport climber to not be concerned how his group is defined. So you can define the sport climber with sport even though you are a trad.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
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So, Dingus:
In answer to the question: A TRAD CLIMBER IS NOT? Simple answer number one would be: sport climber?
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
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This image is of course WAY indicative of TRAD!
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wstmrnclmr
Trad climber
Bolinas, CA
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Nice butt bag Philo.....Cool Weeg....
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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What about this guy?
Or the photographer, shooting B&W filmFilm?
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
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Dingus!
Hell yes.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
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From the AAC Museum:
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
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Yes, film is trad.
And of course, speaking of film, these Randy fellows?
Trad? You bet your bed role, dang it, and your spurs too:
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Oddly I was thinking of this what-is-trad question a week back after leading a pitch that had six shiny bolts and two weak cams in 170 feet. That doesn't sound very trad but sure felt like it.
Plus, I was wearing white pants.
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