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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 11, 2006 - 08:49pm PT
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I was just over there, and noticed a thread where the DropZone owner asked for input as they rebuild the new, improved RC.com.....
Here's what he wrote:
"As you might know, we're in the process of building a brand new rockclimbing.com. See this thread for the original announcement, and this one for the most recent update on our progress.
As we're building out the details of the new site, we'd like your input on some things. I'm not looking to get to consensus on everything, just a read on your thoughts:
1. We need a definitive list of route types, such as trad, sport, toprope, boulder problem, ice, mixed, ... thoughts?"
Wonder if they will include free soloing as a type....
"2. We're considering expanding the "review" of routes (when logging an ascent) to multiple categories for the user to rate, such as scenery, quality of rock, exposure, fun factor, overall. Your thoughts on what these categories could / should be?"
Scenery????? Yes, got to know how that view is from the top in order to decide whetehr to run up that line.....
"3. Any suggestions for additional data fields that might be valuable in our routes database (at all levels of the hierarchy, e.g. routes / sections / areas / etc.)?
4. We want to add a safety rating for routes - referring obviously to elements like protection, run-out level, landing etc. We've seen terms such as PG13, G-rated, X-rated. Your ideas and suggestions for the names of these safety "levels"?"
.....ummmmm. Oookay......maybe Mr. Droppzone should have a person who climbs give his posts a preview before he hits the "submit" button.....
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2006 - 08:56pm PT
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Okay I will try to get kick off rc in the next few weeks!
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pissed
Trad climber
Lake Placid NY
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May 11, 2006 - 10:47pm PT
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I mentioned to bring back PTPP
I read your posts all the time
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Elcapinyoazz
Mountain climber
Anchorage, Alaska
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May 11, 2006 - 11:42pm PT
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Haw haw!
Macattack censored me one of the few times I posted something on the RC.n00b
I believe it concerned the rasta bivy kit.
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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May 12, 2006 - 12:11am PT
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Yeah yeah, I had to. I was the man, man.
It was cute, though.
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GOclimb
Trad climber
Boston, MA
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May 12, 2006 - 12:09pm PT
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I'll be sad to see it go. I've been (stupidly) using it as a repository for hosting photos, and keeping track of the routes I've done and some notes on them.
There's also a very active community of Eastern Massachusetts climbers that posts there. Having a host for such a community is a *huge* resource.
Plus it's fun to play with the mix of noobs, posers, real SERIOUS climbers, and weekend warriors like myself.
Oh, and the photos there are kickass.
Anyway, I hope they pull through...
GO
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 12, 2006 - 12:51pm PT
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Pete,
you know you can go to a pharmacy and get stuff to kill those. You don't have to just call it a crab-o-ledge.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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May 13, 2006 - 10:15am PT
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{sigh} Schmutz, I got all ... all .... {sniff!} teary-eyed and sentimental-like when I read your post....
Aw, shucks. {sniff!} Thanks to you and Martha and the others for your kind words.
Incidentally, I would still be willing to consider working with the new management to clean up my posts. I believe I have almost completely licked my Bold Text Dependendency, and have to admit I now find it somewhat offensive. [Do you have any idea how much willpower it took not to surround those three words above with bold text tags?!]
If you have ever attended an AA meeting, you will know by the atmosphere of the place that many reformed alcoholics have instead turned to tobacco. Accordingly, I have grown to really like italics...
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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May 13, 2006 - 10:20am PT
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Try mountainproject.com instead! :-)
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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May 13, 2006 - 10:34am PT
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RC went into a steep dive about two/three years ago when they "upgraded" the site. The software salesman apparently left Trevor and Co. on their own to figure out how to make the transition.
Many older posts, with HTML, links, and offsite photos, don't display properly now. They've tried to change everything to BBcode, or something.
Who's going to bother to add to a site that will self-destruct the content on a whim?
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 13, 2006 - 10:55am PT
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Actually the site is better now that it ever was in many ways, but the clunky software is killing.
The most offensive thing about it these days besides the clunkyness, is the lack of a comprensive faq, leading to the endless repetition of the SOS, offered up as new regularly, by people who, among other rehashed topics, think they are the first to discover the wonders of shoes.
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pFranzen
Boulder climber
Portland, OR
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May 13, 2006 - 12:25pm PT
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I know that mountainproject.com isn't terribly popular here at the Taco, but in the discussion over at rc.com about their route database redesign it's clear that they're in over their heads and that MountainProject has surpassed them. Everything I've experienced over at rc.com has been pretty half-assed and I think it's time to move on to bigger and better things.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 13, 2006 - 12:32pm PT
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pFranzen, if you build it they will come. Hehe!
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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May 13, 2006 - 12:55pm PT
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Thanks for the inside scoop.
Sounds like rampant egos run amok.
All the nanny-mod hall-monitors who fancied themselves as being of great importance
is why I seldom went there. Some people SERIOUSLY need to get over themselves!
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
boulder, co
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May 13, 2006 - 01:11pm PT
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I was part of "the Team" and was ask by Michael R. to do the route data base and hook-up PDF guides (to sell) with the different area in the route data base. After waiting over a year with no movement in sight, I threw in the towel.
It's a sad case of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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May 13, 2006 - 01:25pm PT
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I am curious what Reardon's involvement was. Rumor had it that he had bought the site.
Is that true? I think a HUGE problem with that site is that you had this incredible
mass of unpaid contributions by thousands of users, and yet people were left
completely in the dark about what was going on with management and the descisions
that were made––let alone having an actual say in the matter.
It would be nice to to know what the vision for that site was (or still is), because it's
a complete mystery to me. Was it really just one or two people calling all the shots?
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Ain't no flatlander
climber
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May 13, 2006 - 02:18pm PT
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Hell half the posters in this thread are major reasons for rc.com's suckitude. Pot - kettle - black.
Just enter 1 after www to get the other server.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
boulder, co
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May 13, 2006 - 02:33pm PT
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And just who are you mr. flat and what did you do to make the site so much better??
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jtanzman
climber
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May 13, 2006 - 02:49pm PT
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I think a HUGE problem with that site is that you had this incredible mass of unpaid contributions by thousands of users, and yet people were left completely in the dark about what was going on with management and the descisions that were made––let alone having an actual say in the matter.
Not only that, but the owners obfuscated the site's for-profit nature by repeatedly asking for "donations" to help "keep on the lights." They are still able to con hundreds of users into paying $20 or something to become so-called partners. I had argued for some time that the only fair way to run the site was as a co-op, but I suspect that the owners had $$$ in their eyes. Can't entirely blame them, as they are still able to tap into an apparently limitless (not infinite, as we need to avoid math jargon) pool of afficianados willing to work for free for a commercial enterprise. I do not understand what motivates these volunteers.
Jay
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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May 13, 2006 - 03:01pm PT
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Stupidity.
I gave them some money, and then they banned me without ever telling me why, or giving me an opportunity to defend myself.
There is only one "f" in "aficionado".
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