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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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we do what we can, for the good of the group.
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de eee
Mountain climber
Tustin
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Dang, I'm on the list at least 5 times.
Is that good or bad?
Gordo's got me beat though!
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Latitute 33
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DE, at least you made the list...
Roving pit bull, route poaching, sandbaggers must be sub-human -- that's close to being a sub-man isn't it?
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Randy,
Maybe its because you’re one of the few capable
of subbing for yourself (sorta like Momo).
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Same place as you, man...... (WB)
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Maybe a little less chatter out of Clarks Sub Man, umm-kay Bolton?? I think you were Stan Roys sub man too....
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Scole
Trad climber
San Diego
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Mar 13, 2012 - 12:07am PT
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In all fairness Russ: Karl with a K was nobody's sub-man. Not even the aliens messed with Karl.
Luke the Fluke did the stealing and killing almost on his own: Just him and the voices in his head.
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2012 - 10:15am PT
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Scott, weren't you the one who caught Luke poaching your bags you left fixed on the Captain. IIRC you guys played nice with him and didn't give him a free tumble down the talus?
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S cole
Social climber
Urban hell
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Mar 13, 2012 - 02:41pm PT
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That was Larry Zulim and I. Several friends had come up for a lift-off party at the base when we saw Luke jug up our ropes. We waited at the base until he rapped down, his previously empty pack now bulging with our gear. We cornered him against the wall and Punk Roy started chanting "Kill Him, Kill Him, Kill Him" we talked about it, and decided that if we started in, we would have to literally kill him, as he was a total pschyo, and would not have given up without a fight.
The immediate result was not as satisfying, but he ended up in jail for six months. Shortly after his release he was re-arrested, and I heard he got life
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 13, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
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Shortly after his release he was re-arrested, and I heard he got life
His grandmother was found in his trunk on his way to Yosemite, hacked to death.
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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Mar 13, 2012 - 02:52pm PT
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Fish/walt
climber/harpole
general shortie/army of submen
bvb don't need no f*#kkin sub w/ his ass only 3 feet off the deck, who would?
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Mar 13, 2012 - 03:03pm PT
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Karl is a higher-up in the Obama administration.
Cilley swears he saw Luke, recently, out and about. Gave him a chill to the core.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 13, 2012 - 03:40pm PT
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bvb don't need no f*#kkin sub w/ his ass only 3 feet off the deck, who would?
or a midget... easier to kiss that ass then...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 13, 2012 - 09:08pm PT
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Have to include Yabo as Dale's Duty Boy if we're talking Hall of Fame combinations..
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 14, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
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Has there been cases where the pupil becomes more bright than the master and the roles are reversed? The former pupil becoming the master and the former master becoming the pupil?
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KabalaArch
Trad climber
Starlite, California
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Mar 14, 2012 - 03:19pm PT
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Has there been cases where the pupil becomes more bright than the master and the roles are reversed? The former pupil becoming the master and the former master becoming the pupil?
I was never a more proficient climber than my first mentor. Never was; never would have been.
But, role reversal was noticeable when I completed a very long apprenticeship. “Why don’t you lead something for a change,” after 2 pitches of mostly 5.9. So I led him up 2 pitches of classic TM 5.10- glass.
“Great edges, eh?” I remarked after the 1t pitch. “Uh...gee, I dunno...”
Afterwards, everytime I both initiated the suggestion, the lead of every pitch, he’d get this kind of embarrassed look on his face, and we both knew he could still blow me off the face.
When I broke through to 5,11, not only would he refuse to follow (“nursing a groin injury” was the usual excuse - I’ll leave ‘wet nursing to some other pundit’), he actually pulled me off the crux, knowing full damn well I’d only have enough in me to try one more time.
Fortunately, one of the other party showed for a belayer replacement, for a send.
After I got my lead head, I wasn’t even interested in climbing if I wasn’t leading (ref: ‘when are U2old?’).
And it was only possible with an ideal belayer - my self confessed SubMan - who sent positive vibes up the cord. After all, there is something about that top stance.
Top Roping is like sex with a condom: you might as well be taking a shower with a raincoat on.
Obviously, | don’t feel like working today, do I? Last day of my month; tomorrow, a refill for what ails me.
BTW, no offense (at least, no more than usual), wasn't "Marlow" Conrad's narrator for "The Heart of Darkness," the plot for "Apocalypse Now?"
Or did I forget to take my meds today?
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 14, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
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The "Master" never ever goes dim.
The "Master" eternally illuminates.
Otherwise it's not the "Master".
We are all submen ......
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 14, 2012 - 03:59pm PT
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Kabala and Jebus
I'm glad you have the guts to tell. I guess most bright pupils passing the level of the master turn into a devil in the head of the master.
WBraun
I already know that you are a humble sub-man to the master. You don't have to tell us. Also I am. Still there are masters. There is no "Master".
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 14, 2012 - 06:23pm PT
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Thanks for the sub-man definition. I had a feeling this couldn't be a thread just about Andre. So can't say = Mo? Seemed like Andre was his puppy.
BTW,
Several friends had come up for a lift-off party at the base when we saw Luke jug up our ropes.
I always heard (from several sources) that was Loomis. Guess not.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Mar 14, 2012 - 06:36pm PT
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Saw Mo (Lechlinski) at home depot yesterday.... asked him if still climbed. He said, "Yes".... so I guess I am still his SubMan. Damn.... I'll never catch them dudes that were in front of me if they keep climbing!
Edit: Can't Say is not Mo.
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plasticluvr
Gym climber
ft lauderdale fl
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Mar 14, 2012 - 08:11pm PT
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Who went through more subbies than anyone on the planet?
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