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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 13, 2011 - 11:38am PT
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The amount of disinformation in this thread is astounding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol
Read something sometime. The studies are still out because testing is difficult on an illegal narcotic, one that is impossible to overdose on but is illegal. Meanwhile our government subsidizes corn farming to keep us all ripe and plump.
Smoking cigarrettes is proven. It WILL kill you. Don't let a party line, bias from a lifetime of non-use or anti-hemp propoganda from the 1950's keep you from thinking objectively.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 13, 2011 - 12:17pm PT
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Sorry if I sounded cranky but I got up at 7am this morning to do 5 sets of hillsprints before work, got a new max HR of 199 and now am off to cook myself breakfast/lunch before work. Last night I did a 3 hour gym training session and tomorrow looks to be the same.
Yeah... marijuana makes you lazy. If you're already lazy.
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:17pm PT
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Smoking cigarettes has been proven to affect people differently. Some folks can smoke from age 16 to age 90, and die from old age. Some others may only smoke for 10 years, but die of lung cancer at 45... Just depends on how it affects you.
I'm banking on the chance that it turns out that cigs don't ruin my lungs too much... Should probably go talk to a doc.
14 days without a smoke...
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 13, 2011 - 06:07pm PT
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I'm banking on the chance that it turns out that cigs don't ruin my lungs too much... Should probably go talk to a doc.
Let me know if you find a doctor that doesn't think smoking is harmful.
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Dec 13, 2011 - 06:24pm PT
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Day three without a smoke.
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Dec 13, 2011 - 08:43pm PT
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Jeff,
Try sweets for even a week. It might surprise you. Way harder than tobacco or alcohol for me.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2011 - 10:32pm PT
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jfailing, Chinchen, pyrosis, Johannsolo, I am so glad to see you are all quitting this dangerous drug.
The choice you guys are making by quitting smoking is likely the most significant thing you will ever do to help your body stay healthy for your entire lives.
Good luck to you all. If you slip up and smoke, just remember to keep trying to quit. That is the key. You will succeed at some point.
It's true that you can live a long life and smoke for the entire time but chances are, you won't. My father smoked all his life and lived to 83.
I would not live the quality of life he endured for the final 15 years.
As far as the pot/cig thing goes, you don't need to be a brain surgeon to understand that inhaling any burning vegetable matter consistantly over time damages your lungs.
Good luck quitters !!!
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fsck
climber
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here we go...
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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19 days straight without a cig. Feeling good. Hiked 8 miles and climbed to 11, 500 ft on the Strassman Memorial Route , Lone Pine Peak the other day. Could have never done it on smokes...
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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I fell off the wagon hard on New Years - smoked a whole pack that night. Only the first cigarette was enjoyable.
Back on, 9 days (8.5 if you consider 6am on 1/1) so far. It feels almost like quitting all over again...
Stay strong everyone else!
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GOclimb
Trad climber
Boston, MA
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One of the biggest problems with tobacco is that it does NOTHING for you other than empty your wallet and fuk with your lungs...
Doesn't give a nice BUZZ like booze or weed or whatever...
The only time it feels good is when you are jonezing for another one due to the addictive properties of the sh!t...
Locker, you keep saying this. I let it go the first two times, but...
Lemme just say that while I neither smoke pot nor cigs regularly, I've done lots of both, and can say that from my experience, I really enjoyed what cigs did. For me, they increased my focus, and made me see things more brightly, clearly, distinctly. It is quite cool, actually. I don't smoke because it's bad for me and addictive. But just sayin'....
Health effects and addictive properties aside, if given the choice, I'd smoke cigs over pot tomorrow - no contest.
Edited to add - before you suggest that what I was feeling from cigs was just a reaction to my own addiction - not so. I was never anything beyond a social smoker - never even bought a pack. Although I think the most I ever smoked was three cigs in a day, and maybe a pack per year, if I ever felt like I was getting addicted (which happened a couple of times) I would simply stop.
GO
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GOclimb
Trad climber
Boston, MA
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And just to be clear - I'm 100% supportive of folks quitting tobacco. Just because, for some people it may give, you can guarantee that if given half a chance, it will take far more, no matter who you are.
GO
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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Silver - thanks for the reinforcement. Good to hear from a fellow quitter.
It really is an interesting process in quitting. For me, it all comes down to a craving hitting me really hard. I've come to realize that the craving passes after only just a minute or two.
It will suddenly seem like the world will end immediately if I don't get a cigarette - talking out-loud to yourself helps here - and then I just keep doing whatever I'm doing at the time and I forget about it.
Add a few beers into the mix and a group of friends who still smoke... Now that's hard.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 10, 2012 - 11:38am PT
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Today's LA Times:
"Among adults who stopped smoking, those who had used nicotine replacement products were just as likely to start again as those who quit cold turkey."
Patches don't work
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fsck
climber
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Jan 10, 2012 - 11:49am PT
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diez dias
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James Wilcox
Boulder climber
The Coast
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Jan 10, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
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Man, alcohol can be dangerous while trying to quit smoking!
Of course coffee isn't much better. Actually just about everything was a potential trigger for me.
I quit 9 years ago after smoking for 20.
Good luck and power on. It really is worth the agony.
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Don'tKnowHim
Social climber
California
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Jan 11, 2012 - 07:37pm PT
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I got "hooked" on tobacco in Yosemite in the very early 80's, "chew." Skoal, Red Man, etc. When I left Dreamland for the dread city life, I took up the pipe and cigar to help me quit as I discovered people didn't find spitting attractive and that, yes, chew CAN give you horrible cancer, also. Of course, I got hooked on smoking it, but was able to quit chew!
Years later, I gave up my beloved pipe for nicotine lozenges... promptly got hooked on them (all the while STILL craving to smoke!). Finally, I kicked the lozenges, too. It's been 3 years, no lozenges. I STILL TO THIS DAY crave a smoke of a nice tobacco.
I've worked with the mentally ill, addicts and the like. ALL I've asked say that quitting smoking would be the hardest to do. The harm that this substance can do really hit me when one of my clients told me that if was discharged, he wouldn't make it as far as the corner before he'd be buying or stealing alcohol... yet he paled at the thought of even thinking about giving up smoking.
Best of luck to anyone who is trying to give this deamon the boot.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2012 - 11:03am PT
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Rest in Peace Edward Reiff.
You were a great friend and an awesome tech. You'll be missed.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 25, 2012 - 11:20am PT
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Sorry for your loss Pud. I am sure a lot of people are hurting over his death. RIP.
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