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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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It sounds like provenance is a significant issue - authentication.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 4, 2011 - 07:42pm PT
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Cept nobody here is buyin'...LOL
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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The gauge that Bird hammered off Maestri's compressor sold at auction over a decade ago for $800.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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I think we will have to get either Tom Robbins or Royal Frost to verify the authenticity of this offering.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Vandiver checks in, saying this was not his piton and not his mark.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 4, 2011 - 09:42pm PT
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Even Gear Freaks Get The Blues!
Another Roadside Gear Auction!
Skinny Stamp And All!
Still Life With Steel Forger!
P Is For Peninsula!
Robbins Is In!
Thanks for checking Peter.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Spell Checker
Pin Wrecker
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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I think that is a CW stamped under the diamond P. That would probably be Chuck Wilts. I once heard him say that Salathe sold some of his pitons, but climbers thought the fifty cent price was high.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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full quote from the auction for longevity:
This is an authentic and very rare Salathe piton. This sale is only for the very serious collector of climbing history. This piton was hand made by Anton Salathe and has his trademark Diamond P logo clearly stamped into the piton’s chromemoly steel. This piton may well have been used on the first ascent of Sentinel Rock.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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10k? Sounds like someone loves blow.
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john hansen
climber
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I know that Ken Yeager has an original rack of Salathe pitons,,
perhaps he could shed some light on this pin.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 12:13pm PT
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If that pin belonged to Chuck Wilts then the valuation is starting to climb toward the icy $10,000 summit! LOL
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Right up in that thin, cold air with the gauge off Maestri's compressor, eh Steve?
A bit more of a positive memento, though.
On belay?
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Vandiver has pointed out that the "CV" may actually be "CW" in which case it would be Chuck Wilts.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 12:32pm PT
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The difference is that I couldn't care less about Maestri's compressor parts and couldn't care more about Salathé's handiwork.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Let's assume it is a Salathe pin that at one point was owned by Wilts. What would be proof? Wouldn't it have to come with some sort of a provenance? i.e. this guy bought it from Royal, who got it from Wilts, and Royal is willing to verify in writing that this is the case.
Absent something like that, asking for this kind of a valuation is ridiculous, even assuming that someone might be interested enough to pay.
Did I mention I have a pin stamped EW that I found on the Matterhorn?
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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I'd pay $100.00, no more.
Anyone else cleaning Salathe gear off their rack?
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Hmm. Kinda looks like the real deal to me. I've seen a number of those pins. Seems like the ones I've seen under close inspection may have had the diamond done in pieces, though? Like, four stamps of a straight line individually done in the shape of a diamond? That one looks solid. Maybe a different vintage, though.
The "CW" initials might make sense if it was Wilts. Hmm. Looks like a "CW".
The shape is pretty good.
Be interesting to check its hardness. That might nail it (so to speak, ha ha) a bit more. If it were soft iron, wouldn't be "that" hard. Easy to compare its hardness with other pins that were hard iron, instead of soft.
I think not all of his pins were stamped with a "diamond P", though.
I think it'd be hard to fake patina over an old pin. Stamp would look newer.
A closer photo of the stamp might be interesting. Especially to compare with a more known pin.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Everyone's right in wanting the provenance of this item established. Fine if it was cheap but the valuation is so tremendous that honest-to-goodness provenance has to be established----and oddly the seller offers absolutely nothing. Very strange, even if it was something the seller knows nothing about, like it was inherited, found on the trail, was in a sofa etc. The seller sells climbing stuff among other things and obviously knows there is great value but offers no information. Listing lots of info on your selling listing page is free, by the way.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Pretty funny people are talking about $10k and written authenticity for a pin. I support collectors, but that's ridiculous. Surely someone with $10k could find a more benevolent use for their cash than this.
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