The Massive Ark on the Moon (very OT, but of high interest)

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Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Oct 16, 2010 - 01:52pm PT
only pussies would write an email like that
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Oct 16, 2010 - 01:58pm PT
rj must be deleting posts?
Waaah!!!

Mountain climber
Twintucky
Oct 16, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
I see you're getting a little out of line again Wance Wynch. Awe ewe cwying oveww sumthing widdle boy?

Just like back in the valley. You can circle the fire but you can't come in.

Twy to be nicer Wancy.

Or leave this forum to those who can.

I'm trying to find that Creep thread where Fish called you out for the time you took a little peep into the girls showers in Curry. I'l find it.

I'll be in Boise on Wednesday, we should get together and talk about old times.
Waaah!!!

Mountain climber
Twintucky
Oct 16, 2010 - 02:17pm PT
Ok, found it. It's a doozy Wancey boy! But then again so is this!!!!! Pway a widdle nicer Wancey, pwease?

Pate,

I'll ignore Locker, as I always do now, because he is just ordinary white trash. But I want to pursue a couple things with you. Just how in the hell, in BOSTON, do you pretend to be able to have "corroborated" my damn stories? Or the slanderous/libelous crap you are publically spreading about me?

In the last case, Me and Bridwell and Merry were the only ones I know of that were there that post on this forum. In another case, it was me and the crook and my old lady. In a third, it was me and a Mexican who said he was a cop of some sort.

It looks to me like I was getting blowjobs before you got your first dress, and I don't see ANYthing that suggests you have done anything more unusual than post on this community board since you were getting your ass wiped by the hooker you were born from. You want to call me a liar, as#@&%e, you better NOT get anywhere near my face, because I will EAT you.

What the hell you been doing with YOUR life, you limp wristed pretender piece of sh#t? If you know so much about where and what I been doing, you must been one of my bitches. So I'll tell you what. Lets make a game out of it. You tell me how long you been sucking my c*#k, and I'll make a guess as to just which of my bitch's you are.


You want a fight mother f*#ker, you just show up and identify your piece of crap self, and you can have it. But you goddamn better know what you are doing and be ready, because I am all over it.


FuCK You you queer faggot f*#k.

I will be LOOKING for you.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Oct 16, 2010 - 05:24pm PT
Waah, you are another lying anonymous creep who can't face his own battles. You developed your fake anonymous persona solely to come out and harass me, because you can't fight like a man. You damn well better believe I meant every damn word of that post above. I STAND by it.

You want to meet me Wednesday? I'm in the phone book. PLEASE give me a call. I would LOVE to find out who you are. Reach out and TOUCH someone. They are only a phone call away, as the little jingle used to say... The Truth will set you FREE. Give me a call, Crybaby. I Love to catch up.


Please give me a call.

Would LOVE to meet you. Or give me YOUR phone number, chickensh#t...








And if Russ said something about me "peeping" you can damn well bet he took it back because its a frigging LIE. And you had best stop spreading lies, because they will catch up with you. Russ and I settled our differences over what sh#t he said a long time ago, and I have maintained my agreement with him. Of course, he MAY be one of these guys that are lying about me, but I expect he is a better man than to violate his agreement. If it turns out he is NOT, then I will pick up on HIM where I left off too. In due time.

Take a number, boys.



I got inside those dorms as a welcome guest pretty damn easy, and I never had to "peek" at a damn woman in my life. The only story I know of that had anything to do with being in a womans shower was Bridwell and he was washing pots as another guest.






Right now, I got a new post to work up, the rest of the story on Marc, with his full details. Then I intend to do a search on just what the hell he has gotten several years probation on, and a few other details. Its all public records. Just his full name, his address and the crimes he has admitted to. the man is a slimeball, and he will not be happy pissing me off when I am done. He would do Far better to meet me in a nice quiet gym here.



As long as we are airing dirty laundry in the "search for the TRUTH", I think ALL the truth ought to come out. If a bunch of anonymous and not so anonymous asswipes want to make up lies about me and spread unfounded rumors, I think the rest of the world here needs to know just exactly what kind of people they REALLY are that are slandering me. Because the truth is, some of the boys here are complete crooks and have been for decades.


I know who the hell I am, and I will trade stories, one for one. What I have done I either paid for, or am not ashamed of, and several, including Marc, ain't done nearly as well.


You kids want to lie about someone, you had best pick on somebody that don't fight back.
Thieves, liars, con artists, drug dealers, shoplifters, and more. And most of it is on the internet already nowadays, isn't it? Well, if it ain't, it will be.




Then I am going to turn my considerable imagination towards the next pest that needs to face a little truth. I ain't done nothing like this in years, it will be GREAT fun giving in to my basic nature. I fought against that for WAY too long.

I don't care WHO you are, you don't get points from me by lying about who or what I am.



pathetic.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Oct 16, 2010 - 06:42pm PT
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Oct 16, 2010 - 11:17pm PT
Keep movin' folks. Nothin' left to see here...
jsavage

climber
Bishop, CA
Oct 16, 2010 - 11:22pm PT
there are some seriously bunched panties here. Too we didn't get more that on the Hottest Female Athlete thread.
Wonder

climber
WA
Oct 16, 2010 - 11:52pm PT
Damn I missed that thread!
TomCochrane

Trad climber
I've lost track...
Oct 17, 2010 - 12:56am PT
rather interesting that the bullies pick this particular thread topic to get all excited

Wonder

climber
WA
Oct 17, 2010 - 03:17am PT
I think its time for another monkey photo. They might need a hug.

Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2010 - 12:52pm PT
I'll be busy today so I won't be able to really post again until maybe late tonight.


Sure would like to see someone take up the challenge of finding the obvious massive boulder missing in the faked Apollo 15 image. And then point it out in the real Apollo 15, Apollo 17, and even Apollo 20 images. And why is this missing boulder so important? IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

Can anyone do this? Has anyone figured this out yet? C'mon, is no fun just giving away the answer. I would really like someone to figure this out.

I'll be back later.



Whew. Seems like it finally calmed down here.
MisterAnswers

Social climber
Ark on the Moon
Oct 17, 2010 - 01:11pm PT
Mister Answers has another Answer:

The Question: Is it a bit lame for the OP to bump his own thread back to the front page just to tell the waiting throngs that he will be too busy to post to it today?

The Answer: Yes!
monolith

climber
Berkeley, CA
Oct 18, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
Still waiting for your "science" about Cintune's pic, Klimmer.
jsavage

climber
Bishop, CA
Oct 19, 2010 - 12:01am PT
wasn't happy to see this thread back on the first page but thought I'd check to see if anyone has coughed up their underwear yet.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Oct 19, 2010 - 07:19pm PT
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2010 - 03:18am PT
I didn't mean to make anyone wait so long, but I was hoping someone would point it out. Well, I Finally got around to it . . .


The image on the left is the official Apollo 15 image. I put the website url on the photo so it stays with it. The image on the right is the "unofficial" Apollo 20 image.

This is a stereo pair. You can examine it and see that all the detail lines up.

Keep in mind the Apollo 15 image on the left is taken at a very oblique angle from the Apollo craft fly-over pointing forward. You are seeing more of a profile of the craft. The 3 arrows point to very large Lunar boulders. The one the right is massive. Because this is such an oblique angle it foreshortens the distance between the boulders and the derelict spacecraft, making it appear as though the boulders are right adjacent to the craft. They are not, remember it is an oblique angle shot. The distance between the boulders and the craft are foreshortened.

The image on the right from "Apollo 20" is more of a vertical image looking down on the craft. You can see the 3 same massive boulders and realize they are indeed separate from the derelict spacecraft. They are the same 3 massive Lunar boulder structures. In stereo viewing all 3 boulders stick out very pronounced.

With this stereopair you can see it in 3D even though it is 2 different images of the same terrain and features but very different periods of time and sunlight and shadowing. Also you can close one eye and then the other and go back and forth comparing all features. Perfect match.

Original NASA images for stereoscopic viewing:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-P-9625
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-P-9630






This image from Apollo 15 has been heavily altered. It is fraudulent. The only reason to do so is to hide the obvious massive spacecraft that is there near Iszak D craters. This is my opinion.

The photogrammetry is pretty clear. I really recommend viewing these images in 3D for added depth of field detail, and to see the boulders in obvious relief above the Lunar surface.






Another look in 3D:







Note the same massive boulders in the foreground as seen in the images above. All 3 massive boulders can be seen from a side profile . . .


healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 20, 2010 - 04:52am PT
Here's a little exercise for you, cut the righthand AS20 shot and paste it on a different layer, then reduce the transparency to 50%, and then place it over the lefthand image registering on the 'ark'. Notice the skew on everything else in the picture - compare that skew with the skew in your colored stereo shot. Now, unless each of the stereo lens pair were on widely separated space shuttles I have a very hard time accounting for the dramatic amount of skew from the distance the shot was purportedly taken.


And in the comparison of the AS15 and AS20 photos you have it ass-backwards, the reverse is true in all three points. That and, given the sun is lower in the AS20 shot thus casting longer shadows, it makes the shadow line on the top of the 'ark' completely ridiculous as are several other shadows in the pic. Add those tidbits to the fact there was no AS20 Saturn launch and it's impossible to come up with any conclusion other that the AS20 shots are fakes in every respect.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2010 - 09:24am PT
HJ,


You are wrong in all respects.


I will post more images of the official Apollo 15 images at higher resolution (well, greater magnification actually) and you can clearly see all 3 boulders I'm talking about even better, when I have time. But they are there. And the same 3 boulders are in the "Apollo 20" images. They are not in the faked Apollo 15 image. Erased. Gone. Vanished.

You do not have to have 2 images completely rectified to see in 3D. The 2 stereoscopes I have (and most do this) allow for adjustments between both eyes lenses so you can see every part of the 2 images in 3D. Those 2 Apollo 20 images are taken from different angles, different Nadirs, etc. They will never overlay perfectly as a result, but the same exact detail is there in both, and you can view both in complete perfect 3D. You do not have to have perfect rectification to do so if you have an instrument that adjusts. Like I said, most instruments do. Learn something.


About the Sun angle and shadows, once again you are wrong in all respects.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Oct 20, 2010 - 09:45am PT
Do you have any idea what a "stereo pair" is technically? A true stereo pair is shot by 2 coordinated cameras from slightly different angles at the same time. Not 2 images taken miles and years apart by 2 completely different spacecraft (if you accept that the "Apollo 20" mission happened at all...). As a "science" teacher, you must be aware that celestial bodies don't follow the exact same path and therefore will be subject to changes in lighting from the angle of the sun.

Furthermore, you are trying to mix apples and oranges by making this pair from an official image and an unofficial one. Yes, one is probably photoshopped, but you know which one I'll believe.

Edit: Here's how it's done correctly. And if you're going to tout your image's veracity, you need to show some scientific methodology that is reproducible.

How to do stereo photography

The technique is very simple - as outlined in the introduction above. Care must be taken to photograph the same sky (or scene as in your moon pics) with exactly the same settings and do the two exposures as soon as possible after each other (and we're not talking years here), in order to photograph the sky (or scene as in your moon pics) statically.
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