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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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God is an extraterrestrial
Tom Cochrane is right, there is a ton of disinformation out there
none of what we read or write on this subject can be verified
its likely nothing much will change, regarding what we know, in our lifetimes
speculation is futile, but can also be fun
UFO's are real, that much I do know
Somebody is right and somebody is wrong
the question is who ...
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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put yourself in the aliens' shoes. climb into the starship enterprise, dare to go where no alien as gone before.
so here's this pretty little planet, third rock from a yellow dwarf, got peeps pretty much at each other's throats all the time. give 'em a few eons, maybe they'll get somewhere. interesting artists--beethoven, chuck berry--some earthlings are way ahead of others. better watch over 'em, maybe decommission their nukes when it looks like things'll get outa hand. don't want a few to ruin it for everyone. won't interfere in their wars, though. natural selection, evolution and all that--it's how we got here.
so then the aliens start looking at earth religions, on their plasmoscreens in the moon bunker. sheesh--better not get too close to some of these earthlings, they're gonna try to save us.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2010 - 09:40am PT
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stzzo,
If ETs are actually Fallen Angels/Nephilim/Demons/not-allowed hybrid beings of Angel and Man, then they would know. They are being deceptive. (Yes, I understand you probably disagree because it is all fairy tales right?)
And if they are not any of those (all evidence from abductees indicate that they really are though), then because all life forms have their origin from GOD, he is the Creator, and because they are light-years ahead of us in technology and knowlwdge then I would fathom to guess then they also know about GOD.
But like I said, they do know. We know who they really are. They are not abidding by the Universal Laws of GOD, The 2 Great Commandments. You can not be a advanced race or an intellectual being and not know these Universal Laws.
Now what kind of beings could invade your privacy, rape you, take sperm from a Man or human eggs from a Woman, give out an exceeding sense of evil, dread, and wickedness to their victums, claim Jesus was just a special Man and not GOD? Now who would do such a thing? Let me think . . . hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm . . . not sure . . . almost got it . . . hhhhhhhhmmmmmm . . . getting there . . . hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmm . . .
(In your best Church Lady voice)
Satan? Lucifer? The Evil One? The Angel of Darkness? and his minions. Bingo.
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Knave
climber
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Christianity has never ever appealed to me. But I have seen 2 UFO's in my travels, my gut says they were military but I have no Fooking idea. I scoured the internet and even bought some books on the subject for a time after that encounter and concluded that there are too many "experts" in contrast. Typical of a subject that we have very little hard evidence of or if we do it is being beautifully suppressed. The Disclosure Project V.S the Deception Project V.S. ? Some think they are here to save us and some think they are here to harm us. And some, my catagory, think that if they are indeed here they are scratching their big bulbous heads saying what a bunch of a-holes.
As for ET's being evil for Probing and such, Perhaps we are crude enough by their standards to be treated like chattel, fodder or lab rats? Our own Christain Govt. has no trouble doing it why should the ETs.
Perhaps I am deluded by Satan's Masterful Deception, in which case I apologise for at the time it seemed to me like the "Good Book" was written and rewritten again by bastards who were trying to control the will of men. A common thread: They who apart from us will come save us for they are superior; aliens, jesus. allah etc...
I believe that perhaps a "God" exists and if She does She is all about Love and not the political and theological will of mankind and all beings in the universe even the poor bastard children of Nephilm must have an attribute or two for we all sprang from the same well after all.
Perhaps the "secret govt" sees that the grasp of religion is loosing it's strength so this new ET construct is being ushered in as a new control tool?
Time will tell when science can be separated from fantasy, but if it turns out that the govt. has been hidding free clean energy on purpose I say we storm the gates!
Signed, Larry the Lurker
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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yon knave speaketh well.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2010 - 01:19pm PT
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knave,
You do bring up many good questions and points. I would like to respond, but don't have much time to right now. I'll get back when I can.
But it is well known in UFO-ology, and there is testimonial evidence and other evidence that Eisenhower had a secret meeting with Aliens in CA, in the Mojave desert on a Military base, and a backroom deal was made with ET. Bottom line, not good:
Eisenhower's 1954 Meeting with aliens
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_Q.htm
Eisenhower's Meeting with Aliens
http://www.exopolitics.org/Study-paper-8.htm
Another point I would like to make. Our government is Christian in name only. Many of our founding fathers were Masons, like George Washington. The architect who designed Washington DC was Mason. There is an enormous amount of Mason symbology throughout the city of Washington DC, and throughout the actual design of the city. Lots of resources on all of this. It is mind blowing when you look into it and you finally know. The Masons and the Masonic Temple are Luciferian.
http://www.masonicalert.com/
That is why the Book -- Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA, by Richard Hoagland and Mike Bara is such an important read. Our space program was developed by the Nazi's through project "Paperclip." Through the reunification of Germany, many papers have been made public, and the Nazi's, the SS, it has come out were heavy into the Occult = Luciferian. And many who established NASA, have had deep ties into the Masonic Temple, the Masons. Once again, The Masonic Temple and the Masons are luciferian.
http://www.darkmission.net/what_if.htm
I'll get back to all of this later.
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WBraun
climber
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Eisenhower had a secret meeting with Aliens in CA, in the Mojave desert on a Military base, and a backroom deal was made with ET.
"..... and a backroom deal was made.."
LOL
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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stzz, if you read through this lore you'll find reports of several species of aliens. some military in-the-know type (bill cooper?) made the statement that the nicest-seeming ones turn out to be the least trustworthy.
so, let's assume, for the sake of argument, that this is a true picture. translating it to theological terms, they're good, they're bad, they're ugly, they're beautiful, they're friendly, they're warlike. sound familiar? intelligent, evolved creatures like us. probably got their own version of god, atheism, religion, science. if they genuflect before jesus, klim will trust them.
me--i kinda don't care whether they exist or not. slippery little bastards, useless to us. nice of them to decommission the nukes once in awhile, both here and in russia. keep up the good work, if indeed it's your work, but stay out of our hair in the meantime, k?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2010 - 03:09pm PT
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Stzzo,
I'm on lunch I can respond now.
The Good ETs: Holy Angels, Heavenly Hosts etc. etc. But they stay out of the affairs of mankind for the most part. If they do interfere it is only for specific reasons as directed by GOD. They never do their own agenda. Never. They are sent, and they are messengers. They do not need spaceships. They just appear and communicate the message they need to communicate, and they then as quickly dissapear. They are benevolent and they appear as they truly are, wonderful beings of GOD (Angels), and they get to the point, they tell you exactly who they are and why they are there, and not to worship them, they are fellow Brothers and Sisters and Sons of GOD, like the people they are communicating with. They tell the ones they are communicating with not to be afraid. They worship GOD and Jesus Christ. Their message always abides by the Word of GOD and never contradicts the Word of GOD.
The Bad ETs: They do everything just the opposite of the above. They do come in Spaceships. Real entities from GOD don't need that. If they pretend to come in peace and are fair to look upon, then they are probably "The Nordics." But their message is Anti-Christ. Yes, they come with peaceful messages, disarm our Nukes, and talk about love and peace, but their message is contradictory to the Real Angels from GOD. Also there have been abduction experiences where the ugly and evil Greys are doing the raping, but in the background Nordic ETs are watching and observing. People who have been abducted have testified to this happening. Once again, they are not who they say they are.
Sit a good looking, peaceful Nordic ET down and interview them, "test the spirits" and I'm willing to bet they would fail the test misserably.
GOD's Heavenly Host, ETs from GOD don't do any of these things. It is like night vs. day. That is how you tell.
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Lee Bow
Trad climber
wet island
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Wow, this thread is so crazy I just LOVE it!!!
Not that I have a valid opinion or anything, but if you actually READ the bible's version of creation they some how "lucked" into getting the sequence of events right.
The first thing coming off an explosion is the fastest moving object (duh)..
Let there be light...
In terms of evolution we're the new kids on the block...
Now before eveyone jumps all over me for promoting my religous beliefs (I'M NOT) I have absolutely no problem with passing aliens or time travellers told us. But random fluke? Somebody with the math skills can work out the base likelyhood, but when you take into account human ego it seems even Less likely.
Heck, I KNOW God made ME first and created time and the rest of you solely for my personal entertainment...
Tee Hee
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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If aliens are demonic, does this mean that this picture is some kind of HOAX? It looks so authentic.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Are we wrong to think of aliens as cute little creatures?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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If Klimmer is correct that aliens are evil and demonic and have a "backroom" deal with the government, he should watch out how much he badmouths them.
If they are as bad and scary as he says, they will come after him!
One morning he will wake up and see this:
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Ok, I think I understand.
It sounds as if you're saying that all ETs who come in spaceships are bad.
So, there are no other physical beings in the universe who - like us - cannot currently travel in space without spacecraft, but who also worship god and are good?
Or, there are such beings, but they never have visited and made their presence known on Earth, and never will?
i think i am getting this whole thing now....
spaceships=BAD
angels = GOOD
got it
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Klimmer,
Are some sources vulnerable to manipulation for the purpose of deceiving you?
Once you think, reason, speculate and gather evidence about this maybe you can move on to the next step which could be a conclusion. And I use the word “could” for a reason.
There are basic insights from cognitive psychology, decision analysis, and the scientific method’
You are caught up in misinformation and deception. Have you been talking to Pat Robertson?
One question I have to ask is; why are you spending so much time: reading, writing and commenting on this subject with just a small audience. Seems to me you have less than a half a dozen people that might agree with you on this subject. Does it not make sense that a larger audience would be better to get your message out?
Quit your job, create your own church and then find your followers, get on as many conservative Christian radios and get your message out. By no time you will have book deals, movie rights and possibility a chance to be on ‘America's got talent” show. Maybe get a chance be in the top 10.
Just a thought and Halloween is coming up please restrain/control your thoughts if small, little, green, blue, orange, gray aliens [UFO not the other] shows up at your door. Ask them if they know how/could to read your mind. Think of the word candy, do not say it, let them respond, If they say the word candy then you have some proof or evidence.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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I wonder if there are any wolves on the ark? And do the beings on it get vaccinated, or not? What do they think about Paris Hilton?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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"I wonder if there are any wolves on the ark?"
Why do you think so many species went extinct? The wolves had to eat.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Tahoe City/Talmont , CA
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If Klimmer is correct that aliens are evil and demonic and have a "backroom" deal with the government, he should watch out how much he badmouths them.
And if Kilmmer is correct that aliens are evil that means Jeff/Fattrad is not of this earth!
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