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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 11, 2015 - 01:41pm PT
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hey there say, feralfae, and gnome.. oh my, us too... the family out for icecream at baskin robbins...
in south texas, then, for my kids, it was:
f st, dairy bar... but not sure of the name... :)
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jul 11, 2015 - 06:19pm PT
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zB, You seem to know about laws.
Are folks allowed to sell Food Stamps? Goodness! I thought that they could only be used in exchange for Food. But I suppose anyone can corrupt any system, given the proper incentive (greed works).
I suppose if one does not care much for one's children ... no, actually, that is a line from Firefly scene, where a nutrition bar is described, with the statement, "Last a family of four two months, maybe three if they don't much like their children." or words to that effect.
But isn't it against the law to sell Food stamps?
neebee it is good to see you here. This new porcelain clay is a challenge: very stiff, not plastic, drinks a lot of water, and does not form a smooth slip over the surface the way my other porcelain does. But I need it for some commissions, so I will keep throwing my life away until I can throw larger bowls. :)
I hope you are doing well in every way and enjoying your flowers and fur family. And the feathered friends outside. I had a flock of goldfinches today. A few days ago, I had a flock of yellow-rumped warblers. Early migration has begun here. And the hollyhocks are blooming. :)
And now, with my house sparking, my checkbook balanced, tomorrow's special curry made, and the rain having stopped, I am going to go watch the second DVD of "The Hobbit" and enjoy it.
feralfae
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 11, 2015 - 07:12pm PT
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ff:
Can't sell "stamps" legally, but they are now debit cards, not stamps. The old books for sale are collectors items (like stamps or baseball cards). The Agriculture Department is ok with trading these old items which cannot be redeemed for anything now.
That being said, it is amazing what an EBT recipient is allowed to purchase with them.
See here:
http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/11-things-you-didnt-know-you-could-buy-with-food-stamps/
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 11, 2015 - 08:43pm PT
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hey there say, feralfae! happy to see you here, too...
say, wow, love that curry... thinking of you, while you enjoy it, and your movie night...
baby robin, grew up and flew off, safely ...
whew, hard times for us 'extra moms' :))
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jul 12, 2015 - 05:03pm PT
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zB, Thank you. I had no idea about how many people were getting food assistance, nor all the things one can purchase. I am one of those taxpayers who does not own an ATM card, and live rather frugally.
I am sometimes out of touch with what is going on in the general culture, being without television, newspapers, teens, or people who do not have gardens and chickens. Except me, who has no garden this year. Never had chickens, sorry to say.
Microdosing sounds as though it might have some detrimental long-term effects, but who knows? Natural substances, grown from the Earth, concern me much less than manufactured substances with weird chemicals. People have been eating mushrooms for thousands of years, and using other vegetables for smoking, fermenting, eating, and as poisons. I doubt that any legislation is going to end these human habits. But meditation seems to work fairly well as an alternative.
Anyway, wow! on the food program info and thank you for the information on both food assistance programs and microdosing.
neebee, yes, as a "foster mother" for a couple of fawns (their mom leaves in the tall grasses in the forest, and wanders off to eat, and I am left in charge of the fawns, or so I think, although they are obviously under orders not to wander around) I watch for stray dogs. The bluebirds have fledged and are perching around the house on various trees and on the deck railings. I do love watching them, even knowing they are going to be taking off soon for other places.
ff
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 12, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
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fSin's old email tag was Jim Jones.
Ths irony, butterfly-y stuff.
Irony. Brushed steel-y.
http://www.abqjournal.com/610336/entertainment/reelin-in-the-years.html
[Click to View YouTube Video]
I found that a diamond had fallen into my hands.
The weekend at the Shuteye didn't work out like I planned.
Plans of mice, men, are subject to limitations,
Especially the ones placed on them by age.
I met too many new folks too fast.
I got up to 7,000' too fast.
I had two awesome camp-cooked meals, one by Flip Flop Friday,
And another by me last night.
It had a good start.
Diamond begins as a lump of coal.
Meow.
Meow.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 12, 2015 - 08:32pm PT
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When I was a kid we spent the summer days at the town park.
It was a place where the park had basketball courts, and ball fields, community tennis courts. . ., pick up games,
all the kids hung out all day all summer at the park.
The big thing was to get together a bunch of kids and walk or bike to town
and the Baskin Robbins ice cream shop.
They did kids cones for ??.fiffty cents !? I think .
especially after tennis and basketball. we went for ice cream.
Later when my sister was a 'big kid' , working at the ice cream shop,
we played street hockey, and then we would beg for ice,
showing off our bruises, to her and her friends and coworkers.
The Ice Cream - the cool , over cool air conditioning
when you walked in from the shimmering heat, is one of my most vivid memories of summer.
Years latter I was living in the small town of Hampton beach New Hampshire, and found newspapers from the 19 oughts, used as extra insulation in the walls of what turned out to have been a converted ice cream store.
[Click to View YouTube Video]sorryif this is slightly jarring but these bring back memories[Click to View YouTube Video]there are some good links off both of those i hopeB^}too.m
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 13, 2015 - 08:42am PT
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gNome
Ya gotta watch The Sandlot, I'm going to.
Speaking of tunnels, the El Chapo escape tunnel had roughly 68,000 cubic feet of dirt removed from it. (5280 X 5.5 x 2.2)
I wonder where they put all that dirt?
Assuming that none of it was removed into the prison, that's a lot of dirt to move through a 20" x 28" hole.
I suppose with the current state of corruption in Mexico it's not that big a deal to have driven off 45 truckloads of dirt or maybe they just put a "free fill dirt" sign.
Did anyone get a chance to bicycle through it before it opened for business?
On a more serious note, this guy is estimated to be responsible for the deaths of more than 10,000 people.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 13, 2015 - 09:01am PT
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ff:
I'm keeping a watchful eye on that $1200 collector item food stamps booklet because we happen to have a similar one from 1984 in our possession.
My opinion is that any corruption in the program pales in comparison with what goes on in the financial industry/government arena (Savings & Loan Crisis, Wall Street bailout).
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jul 13, 2015 - 11:49am PT
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Yes, zB, the military/industrial/banking complex has it all over any poor people who are only trying to find a way to fend off starvation for another few days. The few dollars the poor may get is nothing compared to the complex as far as greed is concerned.
I was just ranting about this yesterday after Quaker meeting to some friends (one cannot rant much during silence) about an oil company that wants to drill in a sacred place. No one in their families is starving, but they desire to add a few more millions to their already fat coffers. No need, only greed. Forget that Two Medicine has been sacred to the Blackfeet for many, many generations. There is no cathedral there, no architecture for the hydrocarbon hunters to admire, so why not mess up the place a bit and fatten their purses a bit more?
Don't get me wrong: I am all for energy exploration, it has served my family well. But dig and drill where there is no conflict, which is most places, and be the good guys. Show some stewardship and respect for other cultures.
Food stamps: I continue to be amazed at what people will collect. And pay large amounts to collect. Then again, we once excavated a house site from around 2,000 years ago, and discovered a collection of atlatl banner stones from around 7,000 years ago. An early collector. :)
The escape plan and tunnel reminds me of an old film with, I think, Steve McQueen. They spread the dirt around in the exercise yard. I hope they catch the bad guys, though.
Lunch break is about over, and today is a desk day of lots of work. Back to it.
Thank you
ff
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jul 13, 2015 - 11:53am PT
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Gnome, I enjoyed your ice cream stories.
Yes, I remember being blasted by the cold air inside the ice cream place. We would all get chill bumps from the sudden cold. :)
Yes, good and vivid memories. Thank you.
ff
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jul 13, 2015 - 11:55am PT
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Mouse, I find that now that I have more time free, I have less stamina and strength for the climbs I have been saving for "later" when I had more time. Irony.
ff
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 13, 2015 - 12:55pm PT
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Don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
Just some of these.
Dozens of instrumented buoys were moored throughout the equatorial Pacific Ocean in the early 1990s, as part of what’s now called the TAO/TRITON array. The array gathers surface meteorological and oceanographic data and records ocean temperature to a depth of about 1,650 feet. (Image courtesy NOAA.)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2015 - 02:40pm PT
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Rfog, no sleep, no shuteye, no rest, just wheezing along.
Am I stronger because of it? Positively.
Do I know more about myself now, like Reinhold Messner? I doubt it.
Too wicked, I guess.
Definitely less committed, too!
A miniature Lake Cahuilla, of sorts.
I sat in a camp chair and dozed Saturday afternoon after trying to capture long-range photos of climbing on the Crocodile.
I had a ball in North Fork, though, that Friday morning while Flip Flop did a few things in town needed doing and while he unloaded some things from his truck at his place.
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