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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Aug 28, 2010 - 06:13am PT
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Entertaining thread drift,
But as I see it,
bottom line
If Ammon is the/a perpetrator...
Then who's the victim?
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Aug 28, 2010 - 11:21am PT
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Wade, could you help coz out, please?
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Aug 28, 2010 - 11:42am PT
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It's a rogue spelling.
The whole thread is littered with rogues.
Fight or flight, the Tool must tool.
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Hummerchine
Trad climber
East Wenatchee, WA
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Aug 28, 2010 - 12:27pm PT
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I'm amazed that the cops were there to catch Ammon, or any other base jumper. What, do they have some sort of base patrol? I would think they would be looking the other way.
Guess I'd be wrong. What a waste of tax dollars and resources.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 28, 2010 - 01:20pm PT
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i wonder if this is the same dude i saw at j tree,
we had a yosemite ranger/climber dude in our party who could have passed for a skin head if he got a shave.
i started talking about dano and this white arian youth who looked like he was on the juice, starting a rant about right and wrong and who broke the rules and blah blah blah,
i'm like, great, a climbing trip with frickin jack webb.
when i broke out the chronic steam poured out his ears,
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 28, 2010 - 01:24pm PT
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Fatty is probably too mellow to be a real skull cracker,
i just don't see an ounce of cop in the guy,
i guess when that badge goes on, the plug goes in the 220 socket,
when you run, it scares the sh#t out of the cops too.
that is another reason they don't like it, besides pubic safety.
the guy who cuffed me was shaking so bad, it took him 5 minutes to snap those suckers shut.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 28, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
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so what is the most dangerous thing about base jumping?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 28, 2010 - 01:39pm PT
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when a situation goes jungle, things get real scary.
that is one thing i have respect for in our pubic servants.
if you have ever been in a "situation", you know what i'm talkin about.
so to deal with that every day, no thanks.
but cops are trained to react under stress, the rangers?
i don't think so.
so a situation like this is best called in and handled by people who know
what the f they are doing.
like setting up a perimeter, using some radios, maybe?
now we have a dirty arrest which means more court time and all that coorporate jive.
i don't want any more paper in my mailbox,
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 28, 2010 - 01:44pm PT
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we have a Fremont cop that got shot up by some punk, full prayers going out,
some bad motor scooters these guys have to deal with.
but base jumpers usually don't pack heat, it changes the glide path.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
climber
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Aug 28, 2010 - 01:49pm PT
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"No wonder climbers are the usual suspects in the Valley, when so many willfully break the posted rules."
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 28, 2010 - 01:51pm PT
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hey Fatty, ever read this book?
col Rex was a relative of mine up there in oregon,
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Badwaters
Big Wall climber
Alaska
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Aug 28, 2010 - 01:54pm PT
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This coz dork sounds pretty arrogant. Brags about hanging out with Spec ops guys? Spec ops guys HATE bragging babies like this chump coz. You quite clearly have no clue regarding anything about law, you sound like such a moron with your "Ammon is a brother" drivel it is astounding.
I've gotta feel sorry for the folks of your generation having to hang out and climb with you, deep arrogance and ignorance are a bad combo, you, coz, are an expert in both it seems. Ammon broke the law, he very obviously did something that made LEO Taser him, get over it.
Good luck with your lawsuits against the NPS rangers!!
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Aug 28, 2010 - 02:33pm PT
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For what it's worth, I appreciate fattrad's perspective as a former cop.
It sounds very real and realistic to me.
I don't read the political threads, or look at fox news (I've heard it is more of an "entertainment" perspective, not real news).
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Aug 28, 2010 - 02:41pm PT
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Well based on the assumption that he was running and shot in the back of the neck:
1. He got zapped for running not jumping.
2. Pretty pansy ass ranger who cant run him down so resorts to a weapon that can kill. If he was being chased for a serious crime sure, but base? Power tripper alert!
3. Eveyone commits crime such as speeding so keep your stepford wife "don't do ANY crime" sheeple talk to yourself.
Imo base should be allowed a few days a year in the off season. It does impact the other thousands of people there so you can't have it everyday. Since that won't happen some people do what they think is ok and jump anyway. Its just lame someone resorted to a taser because they didn't have the fitness or brains to catch him another way.
Btw the rangers don't have any responsibility for Frank, HE chose to jump in the river.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Aug 28, 2010 - 02:52pm PT
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The only problem I have with the use of the taser is that noone has posted video of it yet. Surely someone was filming.... Post it, itx gotta be hilarious.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 28, 2010 - 03:06pm PT
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Bullwinkle saw it.
Was he running with the chute?
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
OR
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Aug 28, 2010 - 03:30pm PT
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Wow, this thread is getting carcinogenic.
Sorry Fad, Crag, and Bad, but principle should guide action and not the other way around.
Is there any way Tazer use can be justified for subduing a BASE Jumper in a National Park, even in the wake of a recent Fatality under similar circumstance? 'Come - On!
But I do agree with Crag that we don't know the facts. Maybe he was under verbal contract, making a Dew Commercial and that would get him a good attorney and a real Judge instead of judgmental people.
We all know the law can error in many ways --The Gospel teaches us that.
As The Master Said, "A Tree is Known by its Fruit."
We are looking, most likely, at an overly fertilized, Trigger Finger Tree.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Aug 28, 2010 - 03:50pm PT
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Is everyone here forgetting you are talking about a BASE JUMPER.
I think he can handle 1,200 volts delivered at .03 amps.
He can also handle the consequences of his actions.
Crying about "the man" is weak.
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
OR
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Aug 28, 2010 - 03:55pm PT
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you are supertuff, pud!
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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
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Aug 28, 2010 - 04:23pm PT
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I will reserve judgement until more facts on this matter. Only been to the valley 2 times tooled severly once, fuked with the other time. Outside of YOS national park NO run ins with LEO for 25yrs....nuf said.
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