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apogee
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Feb 16, 2010 - 02:18pm PT
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"...but the public needs to take more personal responsibility for their retirement and investments."
I agree, but for citizens to build their retirements completely upon the whims of corporations and investment markets, which have rollercoasted wildly for the last 50 years as Repugs have slowly and progressively peeled away financial regulations, is just plain stooopid.
Unless you are an investment broker & in the upper 2% income. Then everything's just peachy!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 16, 2010 - 02:20pm PT
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Fat..the best thing to happen to the democrats is the tea party whack jobs...split the party even more.
I agree with personal responsibility...I also think that the government should play a bigger part in the holding the financial sector accountable.
Imagine what our streams, rivers and air would be like without government intervention and corporations left on their own.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 16, 2010 - 02:24pm PT
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Like a pimp with his whores, I just like bitch slapping them down the street.
Another quick visual showing the economy in Recessions under Republicans.
So MUCH to SUCK ON!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Feb 16, 2010 - 02:32pm PT
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Bob,
Much of the seminal environmental legislation was passed during Nixon's first term in office.
John
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 16, 2010 - 02:35pm PT
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Your so right John...who controlled the house and Senate and who wrote the bills.
I'll take Nixon any day over Bush two.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 16, 2010 - 02:43pm PT
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"I would love to hang out with you all and chat more with you guys tonight but as I said the negativity and bile here is getting on my nerves. I don't want to participate any more this evening the way the "nasties" are spewing bile. This forum is getting very ugly, of late, and it is beginning to exceed my tolerance of negativity and vileness. The problem with negativity and hate is that it generates so much negative energy that it can overpower anything else."
Lois
circa 2/10
We all should be ashamed of ourselves.
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apogee
climber
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Feb 16, 2010 - 02:48pm PT
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"This recession is partly caused by spineless regulators."
Anybody wanna guess which party was largely responsible for putting them there?
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apogee
climber
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Feb 16, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
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fattrad, you are only mentioning half the story- the deregulation process started waaaay back with Raygun.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 16, 2010 - 03:11pm PT
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Ron, feel free to add to the conversation.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Feb 16, 2010 - 04:08pm PT
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Actually, and to his credit, the deregulation movement's first moves were during the Carter administration. Alfred Kahn was probably the biggest name in the economics of regulated industries, and he led the charge to deregulate, among other markets, airlines and trucks. The reason a flight from LA to NY costs so much less than it did 35 years ago is testimony to its effectiveness. It's a pity Carter's other economic advisors -- and his FTC appointments -- weren't as astute as Kahn.
John
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 16, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 16, 2010 - 04:21pm PT
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 16, 2010 - 04:45pm PT
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Feb 16, 2010 - 04:47pm PT
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Thats fine Dr F because Saudi's got a darn good investment in a media outlet
that is pro business. Obama's policies are anti business and will decrease
the use of energy -less oil- and mean less $$$ in the Bank of Saud.
(which they use to buy our products with)
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 16, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
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Corniss wrote: Thats fine Dr F because Saudi's got a darn good investment in a media outlet
that is pro business. Obama's policies are anti business and will decrease
the use of energy -less oil- and mean less $$$ in the Bank of Saud.
Ding-a-ling they also had a huge investment in bombing America..what do you call that...pro-Bush?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 16, 2010 - 04:53pm PT
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Door knobs, neither one knows his ass from second base.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 16, 2010 - 04:58pm PT
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