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dirtbag
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Apr 25, 2018 - 08:34am PT
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Looks like the Macron visit is going well.
Who knows how the North Korea summit will go, but at least there's potential.
Could it be that the Trump's warm personal touch is a more effective way to engage in diplomacy than Obama's icy aloofness? What did the Obama approach get us?
I have little doubt that Trump’s racism, authoritarianism, ignorance, and blatant corruption will yield great results. Macron is used to dealing with LePen, Trump should seem very familiar.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 25, 2018 - 08:39am PT
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We’re closer to a meaningful rapprochement with N Korea than we have been in 60 years.
If you can’t admit that you have zero credibility.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 25, 2018 - 08:47am PT
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Poor little whiny right wingers, always crying about every rule of law that keeps them down like little snowflakes, if only those pesky libtards would sh#t up and take it like the rest of Republican sheep.
I guess their Hate for Obama and the obstruction they caused is coming back to haunt them....
Trump Keeps Whining About Obstructionism But The Republican Party Invented It
When Trump and his disciples whine like this, the universal response ought to be: "Stop whining!" The second group refrain should be: "You made this!"
Bob Cesca· Apr 23, 2018
https://thedailybanter.com/2018/04/trump-keeps-whining-about-obstruction/
There was a time when the Republican Party fancied itself the party of personal responsibility. Of course it was aimed directly at welfare recipients -- the "takers" -- and was never intended to trigger blowback. The party's use of racist "Southern Strategy" dog whistles has grown in recent years, super-charged by Donald Trump's grievance politics. Sure, the Republicans continue to demonize welfare recipients, immigrants and working class Americans today, but they seemed to have backed away from overtly claiming to be the grownups in the room, refusing, now, to accept responsibility for their own shortcomings.
Nope. Today, the Trump-led Republican Party is all about petty grievances, blaming their alleged struggles on everyone except themselves. This is one of central prongs of Trumpism. The GOP's former penchant for stoicism and self-reliance has been replaced by crazy-eyed whining, taking its cues now from the whiniest public figure in the history of American politics, Trump himself, of course, whose notoriously cranky bellyaching comes off as the ceaseless lament of a recess bully who blames his own unpopularity and personal inadequacies on everyone else and isn't afraid to collapse into flailing hissy fits when things don't go his way.
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dirtbag
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Apr 25, 2018 - 08:49am PT
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We’re closer to a meaningful rapprochement with N Korea than we have been in 60 years.
If you can’t admit that you have zero credibility.
Whatever.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 25, 2018 - 08:52am PT
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I know, peace with N Korea isn’t as important as who The Donald got in bed with.
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dirtbag
climber
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Apr 25, 2018 - 08:55am PT
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Yes, their competence just blows me away. The best people ever. This should be a piece of cake. And our president is so studious and even tempered, too. They have a proven track record. What could go wrong?
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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Apr 25, 2018 - 08:58am PT
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 25, 2018 - 09:03am PT
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2018 - 10:29am PT
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We’re closer to a meaningful rapprochement with N Korea than we have been in 60 years.
Hannity Cycle Hot Air Engine
A perpetual-motion machine with zero useful output
Trump forced Raul Castro to resign by making it more difficult for Americans to travel to Cuba.
Trump's CIA guy Pompeo told Kim Jong-Un he was next, and he caved.
Trump could not have colluded with the Russians because he was too busy with North Korea.
Trump is the most effective president in American history.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Apr 25, 2018 - 10:38am PT
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Hannity Cycle Hot Air Engine
A perpetual-motion machine with zero useful output
Trump forced Raul Castro to resign by making it more difficult for Americans to travel to Cuba.
Trump's CIA guy Pompeo told Kim Jong-Un he was next, and he caved.
Trump could not have colluded with the Russians because he was too busy with North Korea.
Trump is the most effective president in American history.
There's a grain of truth in that, no doubt.
But try to be objective and you'll see the libtards have their own canards, e.g., Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary, who rightfully should be our president!
That's all a fairy tale, just complete nonsense.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
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Apr 25, 2018 - 10:50am PT
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I don't know about it being a fairytale, going off nothing other than Trump organization emails and statements it appears there was a high level of enthusiasm about working with Russians to defeat Clinton. Not saying a crime was committed but to say there was no effort to work together is demonstrably false.
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Apr 25, 2018 - 10:51am PT
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Trump's CIA guy Pompeo told Kim Jong-Un he was next, and he caved.
So, less American visitors to North Korea for tourism?
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Apr 25, 2018 - 10:57am PT
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We’re closer to a meaningful rapprochement with N Korea than we have been in 60 years.
If you can’t admit that you have zero credibility.
Because N Korea has never before acted like a maniac to get attention, and then played nice to get some sort of agreement/financial help, only to ignore said agreement later.
But I'm sure Trump is such a great negotiator that this time will be different.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2018 - 10:58am PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Trump is ready to push the No Tourists For North Korea button at any minute.
Kim Jong-Un better not mess with the Deal Artist, or he'll go down hard and fast, crying all the way.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 25, 2018 - 11:08am PT
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he'll go down hard and fast, crying all the way.
Jusy like you and your politard crew here always whinning.
You're just like TRump ......
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dirtbag
climber
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Apr 25, 2018 - 11:19am PT
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Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary, who rightfully should be our president!
That's all a fairy tale, just complete nonsense.
And you know this how, exactly?
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Apr 25, 2018 - 12:21pm PT
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Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary, who rightfully should be our president!
That's all a fairy tale, just complete nonsense.
And you know this how, exactly?
Well I "know" it in the same way that I "know" that Hillary wasn't a part of the Washington D.C. pizzeria-child-molestation ring.
As a philosophical point, I'd have to concede I don't know either.
But back on planet Earth--they're both just extremely far fetched musings without any real evidence, that just got picked up by people who don't like the target (Trump or Hillary, as the case may be) and desperately want to believe any ridiculous nonsense someone else made up about them.
I'll try to remember to check back in when the Mueller thing is over and done with (hopefully his pompous ass gets fired along with Rosenstein and Magoo) and we can see how it all transpired.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 25, 2018 - 01:09pm PT
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they're both just extremely far fetched musings without any real evidence
The Russian govt. interfered with the election to increase political instability and damage Hillary by bolstering Trump and Sanders.
Papandopoulos pleaded guilty lying to the FBI about contacts he had with agents of Russia. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Manafort and Gates were indicted. Trump fired Comey after considering "this Russia thing", Trump lied about being in Russia when the pee tape allegedly happened.
Trump may or may not be guilty, but there's enough evidence that demands it be investigated. The whole "it's a witch hunt" thing is such B.S. because we'd be extremely negligent to not investigate it with what evidence has been made known publicly.
And it's not evidence, but Trump acts and talks like he's guilty. e.g. saying Cohen won't flip. Why would Trump care if Cohen flips if Trump isn't guilty?
Of course people entrenched in a certain viewpoint can convince themselves of anything not matter what the evidence suggests is possible.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 25, 2018 - 01:42pm PT
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Court filing shows that the Manafort warrant was not "no knock" and that it was not served pre/dawn
It would be interesting to know who exactly started the rumor
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"In issuing the warrant, the magistrate judge authorized the government to execute the warrant any day through August 8, 2017, and to conduct the search 'in the daytime [from] 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.,'" the document says. "The government complied fully with those date and time conditions, and Manafort does not contend otherwise."
Mueller's office filed three motions:
One 11-page filing opposed Manafort's request for a bill of particulars, which is a detailed, formal written statement of charges against a defendant.
The 33-page second filing opposed Manafort's motion to suppress evidence obtained during an FBI search last May of a storage locker in Alexandria, Virginia, belonging to his consulting firm, Davis Manafort Partners Inc.
The 23-page third filing opposed Manafort's motion to suppress evidence obtained in a predawn raid on his home in Alexandria in July.
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North Korea now has nukes and means of delivery. One cannot blame Trump for that.
Of course they are willing to sit and talk now.
There are some suspects who "may" have assisted in the process.
Wait and see what a great deal T bargains for
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