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doktor_g
Social climber
Mt Shasta, CA
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Sep 28, 2010 - 12:59pm PT
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JFK was killed precisely 4000 years after the earth was formed by the great creator by robot alien mob conspiracy that was actually an attempt to cover up the salvage operation which was to recover the robot alien mob space craft mentioned on the post above which was complicated by the Zaruda film now doctored such that anyone who watches it is mind washed and believes that organic food is actually organic but in fact is created by the all seeing all knowing creator that fractured four millenia ago and became crystal spores and sandal wood. It's all in the bible. Go ahead. Look for yourself. Its all there plain as day.
DrG
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 28, 2010 - 01:14pm PT
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Pate,
Are you at work?
I have time in a school day: before school, prep period, in between classes, and after school. Time to check emails, take phone calls, make phone calls etc. etc. ST, is just another window on the computer.
Sorry you are so threatened by truth. Sad really.
Apparently, you think teachers are lecturing 24/7 and don't have time for anything else. We wear multiple hats. Have to. It is called multi-tasking. Can you walk and chew gum? Maybe you can't? I don't know.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Sep 28, 2010 - 02:14pm PT
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healyje, I take offense that you keep adding sasquatch to your list. I witnessed these beings up in the Yukon & all the natives know about them as well. We were 13 or more K's out in the bush up in the middle of the territory. And I dont care if anyone believes me. It's a good memory for me.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 28, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
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Wonder - well, I'm sure someone else is offended I put nessie on the list and yet scads of other folks incensed about leprechauns.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Sep 28, 2010 - 02:41pm PT
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Oh yeah, and faries, dont be messing with the faries either. And dragons, they'll be back, mark my words.
cheers
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Sep 28, 2010 - 02:57pm PT
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JFK was killed precisely 4000 years after the earth was formed by the great creator by robot alien mob conspiracy
Oh dooood! You'd better find a good hiding place. They're gonna be looking for you now. You know they can't let that stuff leak out!
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:01pm PT
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If you are a voice of reason, mind your manners and keep your own counsel. If you are a three letter agency troll...consider yourself identifiable by obsessive rude postings (i.e. what you call "doing your job").
Seriously?
You think FBI, CIA, FU2, BFD, WTF might be trolling here?
Really?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:06pm PT
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That's right, because our government is just so good at keeping secrets.
Hey, I prepared the daily joint intelligence briefings for the senior staff of the Seventh fleet for a year sourcing materials from every intelligence agency in our government and I can unequivocally state the majority of it was complete crap written by guys who might as well be spraying in this thread or writing for soldier of fortune magazine. Aside from just plain bad writing and terrible analyses, 99% of it was bullshit that was making the rounds from one agency to the next like a bad piece of chain mail. Most of what passes for 'intel' wouldn't make it through a Journalism 101 course on fact checking.
Disinformation Specialists? On UFOs? Right, that's a good one. Ya gotta wonder who's working the fairie desk at the NSA this morning - poor sot.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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I just hope the aliens are hot and horny. I've heard about the sex experiments, I'd like to try myself.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 28, 2010 - 03:11pm PT
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Well, not the most honest coverage but MSM is talking about it . . .
WASHINGTON, D.C., Sept. 28, 2010
Ex-Air Force Personnel: UFOs Deactivated Nukes
Say Reports of Unexplained Lights in Sky Near Missile Sites Corresponded With Mysterious Shut-Downs of ICBMs
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/28/national/main6907702.shtml?tag=stack
You know someone has really gotten a hold of that CIA memo that mentions to ridicule, to scorn, and to laugh always, regarding UFOs/ETs. Lots must have read it as they do abide by it, but then most aren't paid to do so. Most aren't on the CIA pay roll. Most just do it for free. Sad.
HJ,
Is there anything you haven't done? Geeeeeee. Your a real "James Bond" kinda guy. You've got "real" connections too. Perhaps you can work out the Grand Unifying Theory for PhD Michio Kaku.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
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Just stating the facts. I grew up a scifi junkie in a family of pilots and was a photographer for two tours to Vietnam - the second as staff photographer to the Commander who served as Intel Chief of the Pacific Fleet. I put together the daily briefings he gave to the senior staff. As I said, 99% of it was crap, day-in, day-out.
And credible testimony from a missile officer making public commentary on any such activities would at most be stated something along the lines of: 'the appearance of atmosphic anomonolies (or unidentified aircraft) concurrent to unscheduled maintenance events or an unplanned non-operational status of the facility'. Beyond that you're talking fliberty-jibbets and flakes if the nuke officers I've met are any indication.
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian, Certified Kook
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:26pm PT
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get over yourself healyje
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:27pm PT
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just to give you an idea how it works, healyje, check out a fellow named ray mcgovern, a career cia analyst. mcgovern loved his job at cia headquarters. he studied what was going on all over the world and prepared forthright intelligence briefings for, among others, president george bush sr., whom he counted a personal friend. that's honest intelligence, and if you've been involved in it, you can be lulled into the illusion that the system works and has a basic honesty to it. mcgovern thought so--until a few years ago. then he found out how the honest info is used by the dishonest.
now check out operation northwoods, a 9/11-style operation cooked up by the joint chiefs of staff, approved by secretary of defense robert mcnamara--the brain without a conscience--and finally nixed by jfk because jfk didn't think it was ethical to be attacking our own people and blaming it on cuba in order to justify an invasion of cuba. you can bet that none of the peewees doing the honest work on the bottom rung knew about that at the time. the public didn't find out until just a few years ago, under the freedom of tardy information act.
these are facts here, nothing tin-hatted about it. in fact, you kinda have to put on a tin hat in order to ignore it.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:37pm PT
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Hey, I know more about the intel world than the lot of you combined can even speculate about and I'm telling you, you are imbuing them with way more competence than exists. What passed for 'Intelligence' during the Bush administration should tell you just how bad it is and gets. And then Rumsfeld and Cheney's 'best minds' in intelligence botched every piece of manufactured intel they produced. There wasn't a single piece of intel to come out of Doug Feith's office that wasn't immediately discredited by any number of folks.
You guys are like the mob with pitchforks trying to get the moon out of the pond.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:42pm PT
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"Hey, I prepared the daily joint intelligence briefings for the senior staff of the Seventh fleet for a year ..."
Just goes to show, you can't believe everything you read on the internet. Here's the real clue though: "99% of it was bullsh#t."
This guy knows real crap when he sees it, yet still he's good enough in his job to just keep passing that sh#t on. But boy, one arrogant sob. A little too self-important, I'd say.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 28, 2010 - 03:46pm PT
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My job was just to assemble the daily briefing - I had no say in what was presented. In fact, the old Chief who ran the lab would always tell me - 'just look at it, don't read it'. Given the quality of it all I should have taken his advice. As I said 99% of it was crap. I know you wish it had all been more interesting and factual, but that sadly wasn't the case.
K-man - I love how you hang the truth on bullshit from a million random sources and attempt to claim what a fellow climber is telling you firsthand is something less than truthful. Such is the mindset and logic on display here. You guys are operating almost identically to the tea party with regard to rabid bias and believing pretty much any pablum fed you.
P.S. and in 1973 not once in any daily briefing were the words 'alien' or 'ufo' spoken once by any member of the senior Seventh Fleet staff who had complete command over the entire Pacific ocean and the airspace above it. Bummer.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Sep 28, 2010 - 04:13pm PT
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And I think of the three, Pate is the only one who has ever been a real climber, as opposed to someone who got short roped to the top of some third class chosspile.
good one RJ, hope it makes you feel better. you never saw the day you could climb what my left nut could by itself.
of course when you have given up on a productive life what else can you do but spew hot air on ST all day?
All they got is personal attacks far off the topic to divert attention from the fact they have really nothing to say.
just how much do the taxpayers pay you for your unemployment you receive? you on welfare and foodstamps too? you give all those guys a bad name being on that list since you are a genuine loser.
and yes, i pride myself not to have anything constructive to say on a thread titled Massive Ark on the Moon....you and klimmer need a rubber room together...
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 28, 2010 - 04:14pm PT
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Machines, including missiles and aircraft don't go "UN OPERATIVE" without a root cause - that's why we call it 'mechanical engineering', 'chemical engineering' and 'physics' - there are no magic from space or anywhere else that will do anything to a missle silo that can't be traced to a root cause. If they were hit by an EMP they'd have been able to hold burnt out electronic boards in their hands, etc. Again, there is no magic or voodoo dust for anyone, including aliens to use to disable missile silos without a readily evident root cause.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 28, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
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healyje, I really don't want to cross sabers, you seem like a jolly good fellow. However, you say this:
"K-man - I love how you hang the truth on bullshit from a million random sources and attempt to claim what a fellow climber is telling you firsthand is something less than truthful."
The fact is, I have talked face-to-face with good friends about things they witnessed first hand. I know they did not make this stuff up. So, I'm not "hanging with a million random sources," I'm looking at what is being presented, and judging from those presentations.
I am not quick to dismiss hundreds of people's eye-witness testimonies about the Phoenix Lights, and I believe them to be more than mere flares.
For example:
In an interview with The Daily Courier in Prescott, Arizona, Arizona Governor Fife Symington III said, "I'm a pilot and I know just about every machine that flies. It was bigger than anything that I've ever seen. It remains a great mystery. Other people saw it, responsible people. I don't know why people would ridicule it". Symington had earlier said, "It was enormous and inexplicable. Who knows where it came from? A lot of people saw it, and I saw it too. It was dramatic. And it couldn't have been flares because it was too symmetrical. It had a geometric outline, a constant shape."
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Later, he responded to an Air Force explanation that the lights were flares: "As a pilot and a former Air Force Officer, I can definitively say that this craft did not resemble any man made object I'd ever seen. And it was certainly not high-altitude flares because flares don't fly in formation."
Not that the Governor of AZ has anything to loose by stating he saw a UFO.
The new UFO book, cited above, has testimonials from high military brass, things that are on the official record.
So yeah, millions of "random" sources, as opposed to the sources that you site: family who have seen "all." Now, who would you give more credit to, an Air Force Officer and Governor of AZ, good friends, or somebody that goes by "healyje" on an internet forum?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Sep 28, 2010 - 04:29pm PT
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So yeah, millions of "random" sources
wow, millions! Pictures? any piece of evidence?
i get it, its like the movies where if ET lands, hte military locks him up and takes him to one of those secret installations to keep things quiet...
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