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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 6, 2011 - 05:30pm PT
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Hamie- You are right artificial land is way better.
Tami- What's the deal?
Why does the ffa get to rename the route? Or is it just the "free" name?
If you aid it then you use the fa name?
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 6, 2011 - 10:45pm PT
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Tami - "there was no reason to it other then being naughty. Mischief." I can identify with that... I'm sure my mother would tell you i was not a perfect child, much less teenager :) I guess ultimately the responsibilty lies with KM for choosing to print the new names.
Interesting that KM would choose to keep the name Astronomy and put MDE in Quotes, but then change Artificial Land to Sentry Box and drop the reference entirely for AL.
I guess it's like they say "History is written by the victor", or in this case whomever chooses to record it.
NWO - nice Corn Flakes photo. Who's the soloist?
Edit- Retract my statement about KM being responsible for AL name change.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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The inadvertent name change from Artificial Land to Sentry Box occurred in the 1960s. The latter name was used in the 1967 guide, and became the established usage. The 1980 guide used Sentry Box, but noted the discrepancy.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2011 - 07:17pm PT
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Tami- I geuss we strive to be different from our parents eh?
I visited Kyle last night and got some photos from him. Here is one of me on the Buttress 10c pitch this spring. I lead it but whipped before the piton. The last 10 feet was a stuggle. I was definetly not in good climbing shape after the winter. I had another shot at it later in the summer on tr and fell at the crux. Need to train this winter! Swear that pitch is harder than 10c!
Photo Nina Hagen
I was supposed to go to Skaha this weekend but both my girlfriend and I got sick. Weather kinda sucked anyways.. So here's a little eye candy till next weekend hopefully.
Bones sets up the anchor on The Dream, Skaha Bluffs
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thekidcormier
Trad climber
squamish, b.c.
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Oct 11, 2011 - 10:49pm PT
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nice pics mike, woah that skaha route looks stellar, gotta make it out there sometime...
BTW: it feels 10c to me... might be a different story if that FP wasnt there...
I dont might clipping fixed pins when there is no gear, but whats with all the pins on the 2nd last pitch of angles crest, I might have to go yank em...
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2011 - 11:37pm PT
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There might be alot of pissed off people if you did that. It might lead to bolts replacing them, which would be a crying shame imo.
Are those pins from the fa? Anyone know?
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thekidcormier
Trad climber
squamish, b.c.
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Oct 12, 2011 - 12:03am PT
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Those pissed off peolple would then have to suck it up because the route takes killer gear, even if you only have a rack of singles.
In my opinion they are convenience pins and are completely unnecessary.
Anybody care to comment on the pitons in questions.
-Luke
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thekidcormier
Trad climber
squamish, b.c.
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Oct 12, 2011 - 01:09am PT
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Tami do you mind if I start an `ask tami` thread. It seems as tho everyone, myself included, is always wondering about routes you and peter did and what not and they`re spread out all over this cyber-cesspool we call supertaco. I think questions directed at you need a little place to call home.
-Luke
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Oct 12, 2011 - 01:52am PT
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Those pins ain't much to get worked up over. They've been there for years. I don't think they make our lives that much better or worse existing were they are.
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Oct 12, 2011 - 01:53am PT
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No fixed pins on the second ascent of the Upper Angel's Crest in 1962, 49 years ago! No such thing as 'fixed pins' then, just booty.
This reminds me of the small cliff near the old climbers' camp at Jenny Lake in the Tetons, mid 60s. The local climbing school/guides used it for teaching, and had several places for fixed pins. We would wander over every week or so, and help ourselves. They must have been important, cos they kept replacing them!
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2011 - 02:16am PT
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Hamish- Hahahahahaha.. Booty land
A good thing I grabbed these the other night.
Kyle on the pitch in question
Photo: Luke Cormier
Here's some more Skaha crack for you Luke
Gangbang 10c, Skaha
Another one of Angel's
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new world order-
climber
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Oct 12, 2011 - 11:42am PT
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More Angel's!
The acrophobe's traverse pitch at 5.7 is fave to not rope up for. The freedom way up high, unencumbered by a rope, can be quite exhilarating.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2011 - 12:27pm PT
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NWO that reminds me of the time me and Kyle soloed the next pitch after Acrophobes. We did it to pass a slower party after the rap. The Upper Acrophobe tower is so exposed there it gave us quite the thrill.
I think the best way to deal with that pitch and the next would be simul both together and avoid some of the rope drag. My first time up there I could barely get to the belay the drag was so bad. Bringing my partner up was a mission!
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Oct 12, 2011 - 12:44pm PT
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Pooh clouds have attacked Squamish. It is time to evacuate south.
Look, no pooh clouds. A better place to be.
I'm losing my mind as to why I am not here right now.
In conclusion, must drive south ASAP before Squamishites drown in pooh clouds.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2011 - 04:02pm PT
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Relic lets go to skaha this weekend!
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Oct 12, 2011 - 04:34pm PT
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Newsflash... pooh clouds are floating away for this weekend!
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2011 - 06:13pm PT
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Ya but I still think I wanna go to the desert this weekend....
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Bin Dur
Sport climber
BC
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Oct 12, 2011 - 09:14pm PT
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Tami
I've just become aware that you are influencing my children.
I will get you for this.
Dean
"Eat a hamburger!"
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thekidcormier
Trad climber
squamish, b.c.
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Oct 12, 2011 - 10:52pm PT
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Those pins ain't much to get worked up over.
But my aid rack could use a few pitons...
Looks like we got some killer weather comming! Egg yokes for friday saturday!
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