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Dirk
Trad climber
The Middle of the Pacific Ocean
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 6, 2008 - 11:19pm PT
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it took a while. first all the bolts got rusty or hangers were weak; pins would erode. what are we going to do some years down the road as we find that all the first ascensionists have passed away? will the precedent of the fa-style fade away as well?
people do not voluntarily lower their standards of living. no one trades their truck in for an old nova. climbs over time may gain bolts but they never lose them.
my opinion is not that we are in any kind of handbasket, nor that we are going to burn. still, you can't deny that the rules are still being written and re-written in climbing. the new generation of climbers was born post-hilti; things get normalized, and i ponder the state of the sport down the road. the next generation of hardware will need to be replaced, features will depart from popular routes, new gear will be invented, fa's will become sparse. it grows more difficult to do something new, to be first. will we have our equivalent of post-modernism on rock?
so sorry, i got it wrong about the topic
a political liberal, a social liberal, an economic liberal, a climbing conservative.
i am asking again
(as a traditional climber)
what is the future of climbing?
gotta run, i'm off to go please all the people, all of the time
dirk
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Why retro future bolting of course!
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WBraun
climber
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One can not build an artifical staircase to the top.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Clearly you have a meta-narrative you are espousing by your oblique references to a traditional way of climbing. Post modernism is nothing if not a Lyotardian critical eye pointed at anyone, and I mean anyone, espousing meta-narratives. Consequently, I reject your assumptions, and supplant my own pragmatic, localized and humanistic values.
Sincerely,
Munge
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Gym climbers are the retro bolters of the future.
There are a lot of them, and they want climbing to be a safe, antiseptic sport.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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I believe climbing will be banned in many areas long before the bolts go bad;......our government likes to keep us Americans safe from any danger, safe from ourself, and closed off from damaging wilderness areas with use, visitations, and recreational opportunities......Someday recreation drugs, jumping off of El Cap, free camping at most climbing areas, bolting in most areas, staying in the Valley or Josh all season.......it will all be illigal.......or are we already there?
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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once we discover OIL @ our crags and nat. parks, state parks, city parks, that will be the end of climbing and all americans going outdoors to recreate.
I vote for electric cars...
ks
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