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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 7, 2014 - 07:05am PT
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It will now be celebrated as "Indigenous Peoples' Day" - a much more honorable celebration, IMO.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/06/columbus-day-will-now-be-indigenous-peoples-day-in-seattle/
SEATTLE – The Seattle City Council is replacing Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples' Day in the city.
The resolution that passed unanimously Monday celebrates the contributions and culture of Native Americans and the indigenous community in Seattle on the second Monday in October, the same day as the federally recognized Columbus Day.
Tribal members and other supporters say the move recognizes the rich history of people who have inhabited the area for centuries.
"This action will allow us to bring into current present day our valuable and rich history, and it's there for future generations to learn," said Fawn Sharp, president of the Quinault Indian Nation on the Olympic Peninsula, who is also president of the Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians.
"Nobody discovered Seattle, Washington," she said to a round of applause.
Several Italian-Americans and others objected to the change, saying Indigenous Peoples' Day honors one group while disregarding the Italian heritage of others.
Columbus Day is a federal holiday that commemorates the arrival of Christopher Columbus, who was Italian, in the Americas on Oct. 12, 1492. It's not a legal state holiday in Washington.
"We don't argue with the idea of Indigenous Peoples' Day. We do have a big problem of it coming at the expense of what essentially is Italian Heritage Day," said Ralph Fascitelli, an Italian-American who lives in Seattle, speaking outside the meeting.
"This is a big insult to those of us of Italian heritage. We feel disrespected," Fascitelli said. He added, "America wouldn't be America without Christopher Columbus."
Seattle Mayor Ed Murray is expected to sign the resolution Oct. 13, his spokesman Jason Kelly said.
The Bellingham City Council also is concerned that Columbus Day offends some Native Americans. It will consider an ordinance Oct. 13 to recognize the second Monday in October as Coast Salish Day.
The Seattle School Board decided last week to have its schools observe Indigenous Peoples' Day on the same day as Columbus Day. Earlier this year, Minneapolis also decided to designate that day as Indigenous Peoples' Day. South Dakota, meanwhile, celebrates Native American Day.
Seattle councilmember Bruce Harrell said he understood the concerns from people in the Italian-American community, but he said, "I make no excuses for this legislation." He said he co-sponsored the resolution because he believes the city won't be successful in its social programs and outreach until "we fully recognize the evils of our past."
Councilmember Nick Licata, who is Italian-American, said he didn't see the legislation as taking something away, but rather allowing everyone to celebrate a new day where everyone's strength is recognized.
David Bean, a member of the Puyallup Tribal Council, told councilmembers the resolution demonstrates that the city values tribal members' history, culture, welfare and contributions to the community.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Anyone interested in the state of things in the Americas before Columbus arrived should read "1491" by Charles Mann. It's a large book, and there is plenty to argue about or disagree with in it, but it does paint a different picture than your fourth-grade teacher did.
Makes you wonder what would have happened if Plymouth Rock had landed on the pilgrims, instead of the other way round.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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I am irrevocably indigenous.
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dirtbag
climber
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Yes, fook Columbus. Many years ago I read an excerpt from his travel log. In one paragraph he is praising the kindness and generosity of the people who greeted him in the New World. In the next, he's talking about how they would make fine slaves.
We have admired him because he had giant balls and a vision. But there are plenty of wonderful people worthy of admiration who had giant balls and a vision that didn't include slavery.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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My only problem with this is the use of 'indigenous'.
It seems more suited to a prostrate exam.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sketch is still bitter the Confederacy lost.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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The Washington Taters got their butts kicked last night.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Without smallpox decimating the native populations, the europeans would have been driven into the ocean. Cortez and his cohorts would have been skinned and stretched on willow hoops for the amusement of the Aztecs. Disease leveled the playing field and made such conquests possible. Without it, the US would look very different today.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Perhaps we should have national smallpox day . . .
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John M
climber
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Even without disease, the Europeans likely would have defeated the native Americans, because the Europeans had superior weapons and they used the native American tribes against themselves.
The amount of mythology around native Americans is astounding. They were tribal and sometimes incredibly brutal people. Some were good, others weren't. Whole tribes were often wiped out by a different tribe. There is nothing different about that from the Europeans.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Hallmark has a card for it.
Susan
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Meanwhile, the Vikings still play football in Minnesota
Thanks a lot, man! Now the Internet Social Justice Warriors (ISJW's) are going to take that away, too!
;)
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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What if Columbus Day become an "awareness" day? Like National AIDS day or December 7th?
Don't need any new statues or anything, just have to carve a frowny face on him and replace his sextant with a whip.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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It's true, thems were a f*#ked up time. In fact, I often ponder my luck at being born in the advanced age I was, in a country with plenty of freedom and opportunity (Good 'nuff for me), with access to clean water and food and a life that I can pretty easily spend surrounded by friends and family - providing I don't screw something up royally.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I often ponder my luck at being born in the advanced age I was
Don't you wish you remembered some of yer previous incarnations like some of us do?
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Mushrooms help : /
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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goodbye seattle for they are sleepless in columbus and in digenous they're angry and in italy unsettled
ahoy, captain, i think i've spotted a columbus day sail!!!
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