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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 4, 2011 - 08:10pm PT
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People you love, love you back and don't deserve to lose you.
You don't always know the positive influence you have had on others and how much they care about your well-being.
Shortening your life will never benefit you.
It's a horrible way to die.
ok, i'm preaching,,, i'm also losing a friend and i feel helpless,,,
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Wishing you and your friend the best.
Smoking is worth quitting. Any drug that makes you a slave and then kills you isn't worth it.
Peace
Karl
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SofCookay
climber
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I am so very sorry for you and your friend.
I lost my mother to cigarettes (lung cancer). My father and my older sister both smoke and have tried to quit, but so far with no success - it is hard. I mostly blame the tobacco industry for making cigarettes so addictive. My mother was so addicted she was rolling up napkins to simulate smoking while she was in the hospital dying.
I quit cold turkey when I was 19 and I am so grateful that I did.
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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Cigarettes are bad for you. But they're addictive as all hell...
I'm six days in without a cigarette... Wish me luck!
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Very sorry for your friend Pud, and know how helpless you feel in this situation. Thanks for sharing this and reminding us of the importance of quitting or staying quit.
Jfailing,
Wishing you all the best in your decision to quit smoking. Everyone seems to have their own strategy for success in quitting. What are you doing now that works? Six days is HUGE! CONGRATULATIONS!
You will find the first week to be the toughest, but you are almost there! Count your 'W's and then your 'M's (months). I hope you'll only need to count a few 'Y's before you forget about the fact that you ever smoked.
It took me a few attempts but I finally succeeded, and I was a HEAVY smoker for 15 years and have now stayed quit for 13. About 6 years ago I started to forget about celebrating my quitting anniversary. The 'nicodemon' is no longer part of my life, but one slip will send me back I know.
--Bill
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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I'm six days in without a cigarette... Wish me luck!
Luck!!
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YoungGun
climber
North
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^^^^
Or get a vaporizer. Or cook with it.
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pyrosis
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:35am PT
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Pud,
Very sorry to hear of your loss.
Just this morning I had a craving, but it passed away and now I read this. Seven days now with no nicotine, I feel pretty good.
My mother quit smoking after 25+ years. She tells me 'The craving will be gone in ten minutes, whether you smoke a cigarette or not.'
I should listen to her more often.
-Tavis
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ELM !
climber
Near Boston
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Dec 10, 2011 - 07:57pm PT
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I was a 22 year smoker. I was normally a 2 pack a day guy (pall mall red's- no-filter)but if I stayed up late I was tapping the third pack.
As a kid I was a serious bike rider. I did BMX, Freestyle and then road. But as I got a tad older and started smoking the car and other things pulled me away. I also wonder if having parents that smoked and filled the home with smoke made me want to do it more. Anyway..
When I quit after many many failed attempts I hopped back on the bike and haven't looked back since.
I am still a mouth-breather and have often found the limits of my damaged lungs but I feel soooo much better in every way. Quitting has changed my life in ways I never expected.
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part-time communist
climber
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Dec 10, 2011 - 08:10pm PT
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All true regarding marijuana, not to mention amotivational syndrome.
regular use of marijuana causes the whole wall of the brain to thicken from thc deposits, it is known to thicken the cell wall by 400 times which affects brain cell communication. May take up to 2 years of non-use for the body to get rid of thc from the brain.
Drugs are retarded and totally unnecessary.
JUST DON'T FUKING SMOKE THE SH!T!!!...
If you get uncomfortable witout it for a while???...
SO WHAT!!!...
Be uncomfortable...
NO BIG DEAL!!!...
Indeed. Not sure why people are so afraid of their own emotions. Emotions won't kill you.
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part-time communist
climber
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Dec 10, 2011 - 08:15pm PT
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Theres always that argument used by smokers resisting the whole stop smoking lectures by saying we are surrounded by carcinogens in our daily industrial lives.
Good point. Let's increase the exposure to carcinogens even more by direct choice and direct administration.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:04pm PT
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hey there say, pud.... :( very sad to hear this, as to your friend...
be there as much as you can for him and his family...
not only do family memebers carry the burden of loved ones that die from smoking (as in: 'if only i had warned them enough' or etc etc --this is what i have heard from many kids, as to this, that i know)...
but, so DO the friends suffer, as if they were not being a good enough buddy, to have helped them find a 'different trail' to wean them off the cigarettes,
say, jfailing:
as to your quote:
I'm six days in without a cigarette... Wish me luck!
will surely keep you in my prayers... :)
WANTING to quit, is a main part of the battle... wanting to be serious when the hard part kicks-in, is, welllll:
the HARD part, ;)
keep tackling this trail like a climb-challenge, and don't give up through the storm--THIS kind of storm will not take you down, as a storm-in-climbing can... THIS kind of storm, you can take hold of, and if the wrestling gets to hard when you 'grab it', do NOT be afraid or ashamed to call some good buddies in, for a 'power surge' of new strength and stamina, TEAM work, can help...
so can a variety of 'things to get lost in'
like painting...
writing a letter to someone...
keeping a diary about it...
and--(another hard thing though) they SAY to avoid the things and stuff and places that always triggered you to smoke... :O
oh my... need new habits, then, ;)
keep up the good work!!!...
you will feel so good! yep, i have heard that story from sooooooooooo many
free-up folks... they LOVE it!!!
something about that fresh air, and feeling like part of nature just after a nice fresh rain...
and--being able to breath deep, :)
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Dec 11, 2011 - 09:32am PT
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I'm on day 34 after smoking for almost 30 years. Could be the worst month of my life, and feels like I have lost my best friend. It is getting better though every day. I have quit a few times for up to a year and a half and it always started with that one drag, then you're back hooked. What got me to quit this time was looking in the mirror at 42 years old and wondering what the next 42 years would be like. I felt like I was at the cross-roads of life, one way lead to death, the other to a healthy long life of being fit and enjoying life to the fullest. Any current smokers out there need to take a good look at how and if they want to live the rest of thier lives. Smoking gives you nothing and takes everything. If you have quit or have never smoked, don't think you can have just one puff. Tobacco is really pure evil. I'll never go thru this again.
-Johannsolo
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Dec 11, 2011 - 09:47am PT
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Sending good vibes to all you quitters!
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:26am PT
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Neebee thanks! On day 13... Still really freakin hard. I just stayed at a casino/hotel in Reno, and I thought I'd be crazy tempted to smoke, but I would just look at all the old folks chain smoking Marlboro 100s and it was sort of a deterrent - I ain't ending up like that.
Johan - keep at it! I'd only been smoking about 6 years, can't imagine quitting after 30 - seriously, PM me or something if you need a number to call if you're thinking you might light up. I've resorted to sprinting a lap around the office or the block if I'm feeling I might cave... Works reeeeeal well!
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:31am PT
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Regarding the weed argument: When you look at the tar that builds up on your pipe, it makes sense that sh#t is all over your lungs too. Just sayin, it got me to quit.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:44am PT
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i have been smoking weed every day for the last 40 years,
every chest x-ray i have had has shown the lungs of a non smoker, go figure.
i'm 56, and hike about ten miles a day, feel like a spring chicken,
the high is well worth a shortend life as everyday is 10 times better than if straight.
booze makes me tired, i have to piss all the time, beer bottles everywhere, any workout that i do is swallowed up the next day by the booze, much happier on the weed, but thanks for your concern,
cigs get many chemicals added to them, weed is an organic plant obviously put here by the man,
what do cigs do for you besides make you sick?
nothing.
sorry for your loss.
watched my mom fighting for air due to lung cancer, it was horrible.
no chemo for me.
rather put a bullet in my head.
why do i still smoke after watching mom go like that?
because weed don't cause lung cancer.
period.
in fact, it may shrink tumors in some cases.
if it did increase lung cancer, we would have known about it by now.
all the evidence seems to point the other way,
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ladyscarlett
Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
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Dec 13, 2011 - 02:38am PT
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Indeed. Not sure why people are so afraid of their own emotions. Emotions won't kill you.
Wrong, emotions can kill. It sounds like you're lucky enough that you've never had to wrestle with the ones that can kill...and do. I know many people who utilize various inebriates to maintain a level of...sanity. So they might not all be prescribed by a Doc, but hell, it gets them smiling and calm when they are prone to throwing themselves in front of trains.
Every Body is a special snowflake, and I'll say this as a study on myself. Tobacco smoke (even the 'organic' stuff) gave me chest pains and significant issues with wheezing.
Since giving up only tobacco, and not my other inebriates, I don't have those same chest pains or as many issues with wheezing. Hell, now I only sound like a dying goat instead of a dying horse on approaches...I've come to the conclusion that my body is too weak for tobacco, just like it's too weak for alcohol. I'll leave to the Hard Men and Women!
We're all gonna die, and I feel lucky to get every smile in that I can...It's not like they grow on trees after all...actually!
2p from the peanut gallery
LS
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Dec 13, 2011 - 02:43am PT
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stress probably causes more cancer than all the other crap combined.
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mitchy
Trad climber
new england
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Dec 13, 2011 - 11:30am PT
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"emotions won't kill you" you sure about that....maybe you skipped school that day.
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