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RyanD

climber

Squamish

Mar 26, 2014 - 08:58pm PT

I think you are a smart guy Apogee. Thanks for taking the high road. I'm glad my post resonated with u & I apologize if I was being abrasive, I couldn't find another way to get my point across.

I also think that u, Ron & Jebus all have a great opportunity to add to this forum in a positive way & I like all of you for the good things you have already contributed over the years.

My post on the other thread was not me trying to speak for anyone either, just my own opinion. If others had similar sentiments that makes me feel better about my post, as I had typed it out yesterday & decided not to post. This morning, after more hate, I couldn't not say something.

Supertopo is a great place regardless of the battles that happen and will likely continue in the future. Another thing that I think is damaging to the forum as a whole is people who say how degraded it is & that they don't like it here anymore, that it used to be better & that everyone is angry. I think opinions like that should not be posted here, those types of posts are just as bad as the battles & hate IMO & in some ways "devalue" this great resource by casting a negative light on all users.

We all have the ability to contribute & saying this place sucks now is not A way to help with the positive vibes. Post something positive or don't post at all if u think it sucks, this place is fukking packed with cool people.

I am going to work on posting more positive content when I feel like the Chi is a little off around here than letting it drag me in too. Or if I can't think of something nice to say I will simply not post until I do.

We are all lucky to have this place.

Yeah I'm a total pussy.

Watch roadhouse again, you'll understand ;-)

"Attitudes are contagious, is yours worth catching?? "

drljefe

climber

El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:02pm PT

Good job ryand

Fish Finder

Social climber

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:06pm PT

Sorry Dean

I thought you called the cops on the boy outta Utah you were gonna save

So its just one

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:12pm PT

wow, this one says it all

A few years ago, a long-time poster here on ST (who you all would remember, but I shall keep in confidence) actually threatened to kill myself and my family.

I pursued this person with the D.A......the subject was located, and was held accountable with jail time.

Threats have no place here....should not be tolerated.....and are completely punishable by law.

Fish Finder

Social climber

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:14pm PT

So it is 2

Just razzin you a bit Dean

I know your heart is in the right place but sometimes we all create what is around us

or kill it

Fish Finder

Social climber

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:18pm PT

Sometimes I just dont think we can help people

I fail at it often

Fish Finder

Social climber

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:23pm PT

a forum is like a roller coaster

there are highs and lows

and lets hope the chains keep clacking.

ruppell

climber

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:24pm PT

Name vs Avatar is a long standing debate on many forums. I use mine cause I have nothing to hide and don't give two sh!ts if people like me or not. Here's the theory about avatars in pictograph form.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber

Pomfert VT

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:27pm PT

Bingo!

drljefe

climber

El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:28pm PT

10b,
There is no way to control the board, it's its own beast.
If you want the forum to be a "better" place then post some climbing content yourself, maybe you'll feel better.
All the BS pushes climbing down the list but whatever.

crankster

Trad climber

South Lake Tahoe, CA

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:28pm PT

It's time for Ron to take a permanent vacation from ST.

drljefe

climber

El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:35pm PT

Yep, and there is still plenty of great climbing content.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber

Pomfert VT

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:36pm PT

Sorry Hank. did not wade through the whole mess.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2014 - 09:44pm PT

Ya know, tradman...I've never actively hidden my name...I've just never put it out there like a hood ornament.

Anyone who thinks I've been 'hiding' hasn't paid very close attention to my 15K posts (holy shitsteaks)...there are plenty of examples in there of who I am, what I do, where I live...and there are a good number of people here who know exactly who I am, and where I live.

You, on the other hand...I have no idea who you are, or where you live. I tried looking at your profile as you directed, and didn't see your name. I really don't care, either. Because it really doesn't matter much to me in this Forum who you are, as much as what you have to say, and how you say it.

You clearly have had a bad experience with a stalker...after my most recent experience, I understand and respect your view. We just might have different views on how to avoid such awful sh#t, though.

Fish Finder

Social climber

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:55pm PT

I dont give a shlt about anyone here

until I meet them

Then its real.

Edit: O crap OK I do care about Neebee and havent met her, but thats it!

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber

Pomfert VT

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:56pm PT

dude if you actually looked at a climbing thread you would see my photos that all have my buisness webstore as a watermark. I did put my name on my profile but for some reason i guess it is not viewable to the publick?

15k of blithering arguments... no thanks..

Fritz

Trad climber

Choss Creek, ID

Mar 26, 2014 - 09:58pm PT

apogee! There is so much that I like about you, but I have been deeply bothered by your negative Ron obsession------and the same goes for Ron & his problems with you.

I am so---------looking forward to both of you not being as#@&%es to each other on ST.

It was harshing my ST mellow in a major way!

Thanks in advance!

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Mar 26, 2014 - 10:05pm PT

10b4me....and therin lies the problem. This is, by definition, a climbing forum but you work hard to contribute climbing content and it slips off of the front page faster than gravity would predict.....kind of demotivating.