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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 4, 2008 - 05:16am PT
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How much trash have you found, and carried out, from The Wall.
My Wall climbs have been on the Obscure Lines, but they've sometimes met up with Trade Walls. Bermuda Dunes mixed it up with Salathe for a few pitches, so I, for the first time, saw what high traffic means.
When we climbed to the Alcove, there was a lot of trash. And we grabbed and hauled and disposed of a lot of cans and webbing and crap that we found there.
Who else has had the means to haul other people's trash off El Cap?
You, who disrespect PTPP, should know that he is green, in terms of taking other F-kers trash to the top, and down.
We took about a quarter haul bag of trash from the Alcove, hauled it, and deposited in the Dumpster.
I want to hear from other people who have picked up trash on the Wall, and carried it up, and then put it down.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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June 2007 on the Salathe', my partner found a random loose 9mm x 30m rope on the pitch above Long Ledge. She wanted it, so we hauled it and she carried it down. If it had been up to me, I would have just coiled it and tossed it off, down towards the Wings of Steel slab, then pick it up there later.
My cleanup is usually limited to removing booty cams, nuts and excessive tat slings, because I usually don't see that much trash.
June 2005 on the Nose, at the Camp 5 bivvy, there was a water bottle of suspicious liquid and some nasty cans. I poured out the liquid and we hauled the cans. I don't remember if I tossed off the empty water bottle, or if we hauled it.
June 1991 on the Nose, at Camp 6, there was trash stuffed behind the big crack at the bivvy ledge as usual. I grabbed an empty water bottle from there and chucked it out into space, attempting the "air delivery" transport system. But the air currents brought it back up and stuffed it right back into the crack (below me and out of reach from my belay tether).
May 1985 on the Salathe', I was doing the chimney behind El Cap Spire, when I looked down and saw a loose sleeping bag in the chimney below me (low on the west side, not on the east/Alcove side where we had bivvied). I alerted one of my partners, who scurried down there and grabbed it. He used it for the remainder of the route; he had gone light and had not packed a sleeping bag. Once back down, one of my friends told me there was a note on the Camp 4 board about a missing sleeping bag on the Salathe'. So we went over - the note even had a cool cartoon with a guy standing on top and saying "Oh Nooooo!" as the bag floated downwards.... We found the guy's site and asked a resident, "Does anybody here have a stuffsack for sale?" :-) Anyway, the ex-owner was not there, so we tossed the bag into his tent.
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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carried a poop tube off 'The Igloo' last summer, and some junk of the Nose in November. Not a single piece of trash on the Muir wall in September, but carried some empties off the summit.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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not sure if this counts but I hiked up NDG not too long ago, and on the way down I found two poop bags (one paper, one stuff sack, loaded!) along the base of the column. disposed of them.
washed my hands as soon as I was able...
heh
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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In the early - mid 90's, maybe 1 in 5 or 10 parties carried tubes. The ethic was to clean up later, but not everyone did. Maybe that wasn't the ethic at all and I was just a tourist - but whatever. One time we carried out 3 really full garbage bags, probably eq to 3-4 full haul bags, from between Nose, E Butt. It was all we could carry. We really didn't leave much behind, short of heading way out beyond the fall line out into the talus. If that kind of thing was done 2-3 times a year, the place would be pretty clean. Took us maybe 3 hours on a rest day. People carrying tubes are less likely to go do that kind of thing, I think. The sun dries out a sh#t bag pretty quick, and most explodes out anyway, so no big deal. Only a couple fresh ones.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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I try to make it a point when fixing before blasting to remember to bring a garbage bag up to the base to grab stuff on the way down.
The east end of Thanksgiving Ledge could use a bit more cleaning - I grabbed a few empty bottles the last time I was up there, but there were some others I left behind.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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I usually carry a few small plastic bags when hiking or climbing, often to carry things like lunch or leakables. They make fine containers for small garbage found everywhere. See it on the way up, grab it on the way down. The bag can be turned inside out and used as a glove, to pick up anything gross. For longer trips, one or two medium-large garbage bags can fulfill the same functions, plus be handy in the rain, especially if reasonably sturdy.
A small folding knife is always useful to have.
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