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woodcraft
Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 9, 2006 - 12:40pm PT
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If it is established that the World Trade Center collapse was organized by the Bush administration, Do you think that George Bush and Dick Cheney should be executed?
I've been contemplating this question after hearing details of very credible research into how the buildings were brought down. It explains the molten metal seen pouring from the side of the building, and the pool of molten steel in the basements. Have you thought about why your fireplace grate and bar-b-que grill have not melted, and even white hot steel in a forge does not melt, yet a 100+ story building supposedly collapsed in 10 seconds from fire?
Google - Dr. Steven Jones, thermate- to check it out.
Jay
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Woodcraft,
See a shrink fast.
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Themadmilkman
Sport climber
Memphis, TN
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If you're going to go by what that guy says, be sure to also read all of the retorts done by professionals in the field of materials science. They do a pretty good job of debunking him.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oh geez...not another 9/11 conspiracy thread.
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woodcraft
Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2006 - 12:51pm PT
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So do you think the buildings fell down at free-fall speed from being hit by a plane, & fire? (except building #7 - it fell down because it was sad?) I personally have demolished houses, and been impressed by how much you have to take away before the building actually comes down- and that is lightweight frame construction- no steel.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Woodcraft,
Have someone release you from your straitjacket, go to a bookstore and purchase the book by "Popular Mechanics" that deals with all your concerns.
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Having been in construction for 20+ years, I concur with the whole thing smelling Fishy! There should have been more fatalities also, the whole thing just isn't right. But the American people swallow sh#t and think it tastes good if the television says it's so. Shamefully living in a "red" state.
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dirtbag
climber
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I think Woody's idea is a good one.
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woodcraft
Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2006 - 01:17pm PT
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Woody-
I have read the Popular Mechanics denial. If the floors "pancaked", why wasn't there still the core columns sticking up? I don't recall their explaining building #7 either. Have you seen the videos? - 50 story building, gone in 8 seconds- no airplane, no steel-melting fire. Why do you think that happened?
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Chaz,
Once would have been enough, even though I agree with the sentiment.
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woodcraft
Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2006 - 02:04pm PT
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Chaz-
Thank you for your articulate and reasoned response
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snooky
climber
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Yeah to execute is a little harsh. Maybe they could just take in the bum from their gay preacher buddy Haggard and get a few blisters that wont go away.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Woodcraft sez:
"Thank you for your articulate and reasoned response"
I do what I can.
It's just that kind of thread.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Woodcraft, MoveOn.getoverit
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Matt
Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
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I do what I can.
It's just that kind of thread.
no, you are just that kind of guy...
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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definitely a little early for this putting noose before th ass and all...
but if it did go down that way (assuming the towers did go down that way,) it would be amusing to have Bush, Cheney and Saddam all be cellmates for life.
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BrentA
Gym climber
Las Vizzle, on the rizzle
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the truth is not out there...
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andanother
climber
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In answer to you hypothetical question:
Yes. Anyone involved should be executed on a number of charges. The democrats are traditionally against the death penalty, but I doubt they (or anyone else) would have a problem justifying in this hypothetical situation.
The problem is that there is no way those two, or any other US govt official could have been involved.
I would definitely get some sort of twisted satisfaction to find out that it was done by our government. But the fact is, there is absolutely no way they could pull it off. I don't care how much evidence there is to the contrary. It can't be done. Yes, GW and his cronies indirectly FUNDED the attacks, but that doesn't mean they were "involved".
If, somewhere down the road, it is discovered that I am mistaken, I will happily retract that statement. But I'm not too worried about it.
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